>On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 07:16 AM, Erik Price wrote:
>>On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 04:22 AM, Neal A. Crocker wrote:
>>I took my IBook and my TiBook to the Apple Store, and after an hour
>>of fiddling and various tests, the "Genius" at the Genius Bar
>>concluded somewhat tentatively that my authentication problem had
>>something to do with all the extra users ("News Server",
>>"MySQLDatabase Server", etc.) installed by some fink package (I
>>forget which one) which is installed on both my computers.
>>...
>>
>>>By the way, I'm not really confident in his conclusion, but I
>>>thought I'd post to this list in case other fink users have had
>>>this problem.
>>
>>You're probably right to wonder here... I'm not saying it's not
>>possible (there are some pretty strange random bugs related to
>>users, such as the infamous "Do not Delete Users from
>>SystemPreferences->Users"), but did he venture any sort of
>>hypothesis as to what the Users had to do with connecting via
>>AppleTalk? That sounds kind of strange.
>
>in my opinion, it most likely has nothing to do with the extra
>users. I have had no problems ever with authentication of any kind.
>the only problem *maybe* is if you used the passwd program to change
>something, darwin could get confused, but it seems like he gave was
>a typical MS answer: "Well, ummm.....we didn't put that there, so
>that must be the problem." (read: I have no idea.) If he can't
>provide evidence that they are causing the problem, I would keep
>searching. maybe lookupd or netinfo or something is not doing it's
>job, does the console say anything? what about a logout/reboot? Does
>it help?
I hadn't thought of checking the console. I'll do that. I've tried
rebooting/re-logging-in. So did the Apple guy. No luck.
Incidently, after my post to the list, I went to the Apple Discussion
Forums (discussions.info.apple.com) to see if anyone else has had a
similar problem (I searched the "Mac OS X" set of boards for the
terms "appletalk" and "authentication"), and a few people have,
although no one has found a solution. I did find something that
might be useful, though, a thread about problems with appletalk and
printers. Apparently, there is an "appletalk" command that allows
starting, stopping and otherwise manipulating and interrogating
appletalk from the command line. I might play around with that a bit.
>Sorry for sounding so harsh, but I don't trust conclusions,
>especially security related, without proof. I don't know, maybe I'm
>wrong. Happy hunting :-)
I like that: "Well, ummm.....we didn't put that there, so that must
be the problem." That pretty well covers his view, I think.
Neal.
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