Completely agree with sir_brizz and will hughes. This new "activation
model" is patently insane and just made my life 100 times more
difficult. If someone were to create a fork of Firebug 1.3 that
preserved domain whitelisting/blacklisting, I would pay $50 for it
easily. johnjbarton, since you seem oblivious to how the new version
is problematic, let me spell out some common scenarios I have tried:

Previously I enabled firebug for localhost, since that's where I do
most of my testing and developing. Then I would browse from page to
page (without the panel open) until the "script error" message came up
on the status bar. Then I'd open the firebug panel and troubleshoot.
I'd fix it then perhaps browse around a few more pages, with the panel
still open. When I was happy I'd solved the problem, I minimized
firebug (back in those halcyon days, I could click the "x" button or
the little firebug icon to remove the panel--it didn't matter). But
firebug stayed active, so I would be alerted to script errors if they
happened.

Fast forward to today. Seems firebug now remembers panel position PER
PAGE, which is ludicrously stupid. So as I browse from one page to the
next, the panel is randomly disappearing and reappearing. And of
course I can no longer simply tell firebug to be active only for
localhost. WOW, WHAT SOME GREAT NEW FEATURES, GUYS!

The new system is completely absurd, and I hope now you can begin to
see why. When a tool as ubiquitous as firebug gets changed so
drastically, the question is WHY? We all loved it before, so please
stop butchering it. And again, I put out the call to some developer
out there who would want to continue the awesomeness of firebug 1.3
and perhaps rename it. That person would be regarded as a hero at this
point...

--brad g.


On May 10, 11:46 pm, Will Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been using1.4.0a27 and the release immediately prior (I don't
> remember the version, sorry), and I have to say that the activation
> model is driving me absolutely batty.
>
> I often use Firebug to debug webservice calls, and having the Firebug
> Networkpanelnot capture activity because I've opened a new tab or
> window is incredibly frustrating.
>
> I need a setting *somewhere* (even if not in the UI) so that I can
> force the Networkpanelto activate always on certain sites or
> globally - I don't particularly mind either way.
>
> I really really love the JSON decoding, but the current model has
> (cumulatively) lost me more hours than if I had stayed with 1.3 and
> decoded the results manually.
>
> On Apr 2, 3:27 pm, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Firebug1.4a16 is available fromhttp://getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/1.4X.
> > We are getting close to beta.
>
> > One of the issues we need feedback on is the new activation model. Of
> > special importance are ideas for how to support use models that suffer
> > in the new scheme without adding options to the UI.
>
> > jjb

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