Steven Roussey wrote:
> While the discussion of icons is going on, and seeing that icons are
> getting nicer, I'd like to make a suggestion. I'll see about designing
> the icon in another post...
>
> Firebug itself can be: {on | off}
>
> In the case of {on},
> Firebug UI can be: {shown | hidden}
>
> In the case of {shown},
> Firebug UI location: {bottom of page | separate window}
>
> The current situation (fb 1.5a12):
>
>
> In Firefox's status bar:
> - the Firebug icon will show whether it is {on | off} by being colored
> or gray
> - Clicking it will ensure Firebug is {on} and will toggle {shown |
> hidden} if location is {bottom of page}
> - Clicking it will ensure Firebug is {on} and will bring separate
> window to front if location is {separate window}
> - right clicking it brings up a context menu
>
> In Firebug, bottom of the page:
> - the Firebug icon acts like a menu, even though it looks a button and
> is a group of other buttons. That menu is not the same as the context
> menu above, and right clicking it does not bring up that other menu
> either.
> - it (and the other two) are menu/icons in the area of the tabs, while
> there is an area of icons on the right side as well
>
> In Firebug, separate window:
> - the Firebug icon is gone, and instead there is a menu bar.
> - unlike when on the bottom of the page, there is no button to from
> separate window to bottom of page
>
>
> Suggestions:
>
> 1. Move icons from left to right -- away from the tabs
>   
maybe put the inspect, search pause to the left of the search box but 
still on the right side of the plugin
> 2. Change the icon for the menu when firebug is on the bottom of the
> page. Same icon doing different things. And give it a tooltip.
>   
does it do this already
> 3. Add the tool icons to the status bar
>   
why add more clutter, (you are talking about FF status and not FB's)
> 4. Move the search box into the tab area -- it took a while to figure
> out that it worked in all the tabs
>   
i like your mockuyp on this
> 5. When the focus is in Firebug, control-F should move the focus to
> the search box
>   
ummm no, that is the shortcut for finding things on a page, maybe ctrl + 
shift / alt + f
> 6. Add the inspector tool to the Firefox status bar
>   
why must we clutter our system tray, personally speaking i dont like to 
have more then a few, its veyr very very distracting, dyslexic i am.
> 7. Highlight the firebug icon in the status bar when Firebug is on but
> hidden and stuff is being written to the console. We could use the
> saturated version used for the hover of the menu that uses the Firebug
> icon...
>
>
>
> mockup: 
> http://www.visigroups.com/_/Image/Cms/606/ad21c72ae0a16faf49375cfcb57f16ef/0/0
>
> >
>
>   
overall i do not like having the double redundant icons in your mockup, 
this is a plugin not a webpage, this plugin is designed for web dev's 
not idiot web browsing users.

however i do strongly agree with you about moving all of the icons to 
the right side.

neways thats some great feedback and mockup, great work...even if i dont 
agree with u ^_^

kara

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