Smoot Carl-Mitchell wrote:
>
> UUCP mail was a different story than early Internet mail. Interestingly,
> they grew up almost side by side. UUCP was developed by Bell Labs and
> appeared in very early version of Unix (V6 I believe). The UUCP mail system
HUMMM AT&T System V R 3.1.1, 3.2.1, 3.2.2, I am streaching here but
was there not a 3.2.3 I KNOW I worked with all of them from 3.1.1 to
3.2.2 on the OLD 3B2-400, 600, and 1000 series machines. UUCP was
present on those machines.
NOW lets see I type dmesg on my sun server here and lets see..
*****
syncing file systems... done
SunOS Release 5.6 Version Generic_105181-03 [UNIX(R) System V Release
4.0]
Copyright (c) 1983-1997, Sun Microsystems, Inc.
***** Yep System V R 4. (incidently this is solaris 2.6
Did you want to say System 3 System 2???
> and its hop-by-hop routing was a design decision due to the UUCP network being
> an adhoc collection of dialup links.
>
> The mail system used by NCP of the old ARPANET was actually
> grafted onto the file transfer protocol. It general delivered mail
> directly to the intended recipient. In those days (1970s) email addresses
> in the ARPANET were of the form user@host or literally "user at host". So
> the mail transport made a connection directly to the receiving host.
> RFC821 was an evolution of the old ARPANET mail system.
HUMM... I was not computing in the 70's BUT I remember times about 1987
that I had to use the host bang host bang host bang user type of email
path.
If I was lucky I was able to use just hostbang user. Such that mail
would be sent via joeschmoe.com!joe on the systems that I was a user of
the @ rearly worked even after changing a few things stty erase stty
kill and stty intr being set so that @ was not one of the characters.
(actually the bang method still works today... At least the last time I
tried)
> >
> >> The RFC821 specification for SMTP simply did not contemplate SPAM mail. [...
> >]
> >
> >Of course at that time nobody cared about RFC821...
>
> The early Internet community certainly did. 821 is an update to 733 I
> believe which came out in the very early 1980s. I forget the exact date.
> But there was a great deal of early interest in developing a standard email
> system architecture.
>
Actually until the internet became more popular and almost everybody got
it to their home PC SPAM was not a real issue... I used to be able to
read almost
every single message in every single news group that the school had in
'87 '88 but now it is a chore to keep up with two... and spam emails
MAYBE MAYBE I would get 1 a week. now it seems like one a day (mostly
from majordomo lists, since I have spam blocked on my server at home, as
well as the server at the office. Now folks are seeing $$$$ and are
using the internet to profit from it rather than learn and interact, and
dshare information like the original intent. As well as for LARGE
comapnies to profit from the government or other companies by selling
system time, or sending products produced to another location via the
net.
Yes there is MUCH MUCH more than that I just put the statement at the
highest level.
-- Leif
PS... Now is this thread off subject or did I miss something??? At least
I only had 96 emails this morning. :)
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