Wow! <pitch-a-beer-to-Derek> (yeah, I just dated myself!) I agree!
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> From: Ron DuFresne[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:32 PM
> To: Mark Hayes
> Cc: 'Matthew G . Harrigan'; 'Derek Martin'; 'Paul D. Robertson'; 'P L
> STEINBRUCH'; 'Paul L. Lussier'; 'William Joynt'; 'Bill Joynt'; 'Dave
> Gillett'; 'Firewall list'; 'Paul L. Lussier'
> Subject: RE: kill -9 the portscan thing.
>
>
> But, then you have taken an addict and set them loose without the fix they
> need, and so the urge overwhelms the senses and the fear of retribution
> losses it;s impact and influence. This is very similiar to what was done
> with Mitnick and others playing the same game over time. And few of them
> could resist the need for the fix and soon found a means to soothes their
> needs and wants.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron DuFresne
>
> On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Mark Hayes wrote:
>
> > How about making it illegal for the culprit to go anywhere near a
> computer
> > for two years (punishable by prison). Put them on probation. This would
> have
> > a knockon affect of (in some cases) making certain people unemployable
> for a
> > while (if their job involves computers). Confiscate all hardware for the
> > duration and delete all know internet accounts etc. You could even
> > distribute lists to all known (local) service providers making it an
> offence
> > to provide a connection to anyone on that list.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matthew G . Harrigan
> > Sent: 27 July 1999 02:23
> > To: Derek Martin; Paul D. Robertson
> > Cc: P L STEINBRUCH; Paul L. Lussier; William Joynt; Bill Joynt; Dave
> > Gillett; Firewall list; Paul L. Lussier
> > Subject: kill -9 the portscan thing.
> >
> >
> > > Let me ask you this: what do you think should be the punishment for a
> port
> > > scan?
> >
> > Hm. How about having to listen to lots of people on a mailing list
> > dredge on about a topic which can only end up in the eventual
> consultation
> > of someone who knows the law pertaining to a given geographical area?
> :-)
> > Just think of how many portscans you folks are missing while typing!
> >
> > Matt
> >
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