Again, whose responsibility is it here? Certainly it has to be one of
personal responsibility. Folks, you had the spoon feeding stop after HS,
from then on, you were considered an adult, and capable of being self
responsible.
This would be like saying that the ISP owes you training on how to use
your new PC and it's potential connection to the internet. This is not
the case, you have to educate yourself. Not only on how to plug in and
use your PC, but, on how to use it in a safe fashion.
As for warnings of personal security, they have made it to the evening
news programs. The info is ou there, if only someone would actually use a
search engine to go delve it out, rather then thinking it should be
someone else's responsibility. I dont know, what are folks trying to
advicate here? That every PC/MAC/etc be shipped with a BIG red cricle
about a phone, with the phone X'ed out in red too, with the warning lable
below stating: your personal security is at risk upon opening this box?
That this be included in the login banner for ever ISP? That all web
sites have a "have you checked your personal security today" banner
topping every page?
Comeon, you take the responsibility of opening your home to prying eyes
when you connect to the big outside world. If you surf without virus
protection, *you* take the risk, if you connect without taking precautions
about the security of your personal machine and it's connection, you have
taken the risk.
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Kevin Johnston wrote:
> I agree with your 2 cents worth. I am just frustrated they won't even
> acknowledge the issue.
> They offer no suggestions and seem completely incompetent on the subject. I
> suggested they post security issues on their web pages and possibly make a
> deal with a software vendor that could offer reasonably effective intrusion
> detection/firewall functionality to customers at a reasonable rate or
> include it in the package deal with the connection itself - they are
> charging twice what AOL does, they could win points by doing this (with me
> anyway).
>
> Well, enough grumbling...thanks for the ear guys (and gals)...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mullen, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 'Ron DuFresne' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kevin Johnston
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Sweeney, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'The Firewalls List'
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Unknown internet traffic
>
>
> > Just to add my $0.02, which if I'm lucky is worth half
> > that, the cable companies are wise to not put a firewall
> > between you and the net. Once they have done that, they
> > are legally responsible for your safety, and they also
> > don't have to run tech support when the latest streaming
> > application doesn't work or you're trying to open up a
> > non-standard port for some network project for school or
> > anything else. Unlike a corporate environment, they
> > can't block out all but their approved services.
> >
> > What would be better is if they did a better job of
> > educating people on securing their own systems and
> > made people aware such activities were necessary.
> >
> > Unfortunately, most users don't understand the need,
> > the concept, or the techniques, and would rather just
> > ignore the issue. On the plus side, unless you download
> > a trojan, the only vulnerability most Windows users
> > have is the plethora of DoS attacks out there. Since
> > Windows users are used to having to reboot constantly
> > they probably wouldn't even notice the attack.
> >
> >
> > ~Patrick
>
>
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