Perhaps I read the canadia legalese improperly, but, it suggested to me
that it was dealing with an employees private info being made public, like
a persons hospital records and such.  Not whether a company has the right
to say grab up an employee's desktop/laptop and reformat the sucker or say
dismiss the person for harboring things there the company has flatly
stated is not allowed.  As it has been pointed out on this list many
times, and perhaps with special instructions to folks to be aware of their
legalesse, perhaps not <maybe us folks in the US are put to a stiffer test
in the matter?> private toys do not belong on the companies machines and
corporate assests, that's what home accounts are for, yes?

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Bill Royds wrote:

> The question is what is personal property and what is corporate assets. As I said, I 
>Canada personal  items, even if stored on a corporate computer, belong to the person 
>not the corporation. That is why there might be a problem with files downloaded from 
>the Internet on a corporate computer. If they were downloaded out of company time 
>(overnight say) and were not required by corporate contract, then they don't belong 
>to the corporation. The U.S. may have different law, since corporate rights seem to 
>overshadow personal rights in all kinds of ways, despite rhetoric about freedom of 
>the individual. 
>    I just finished reading a section of Bruce Schneier's "Secrets & Lies" book that 
>concerns this. On page 60 he talks about the problems between the European Union (EU) 
>and the United States with respect to the 1998 EU Data Protection Act. Under European 
>(and now Canadian) law, it is illegal to share or sell data about an individual 
>collected by another. I, as a Canadian firewall administrator, now have to treat 
>firewall logs, sendmail logs etc. that might identify an individual as "protected" 
>data, kept under lock at all times. Management needs a signing officer's (VP etc.) 
>consent to review usage. One needs to have consent to have a help desk make a copy of 
>disk contents. 
> It does cause problems but it also clarifies the right to privacy.
>  It doesn't mean a corporation loses their assets but that there is a clearer line 
>between corporate information assets and personal information assets and that line is 
>not who owns the computer.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:28
> To: Bill Royds
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Truth or Fiction
> 
> 
> 
> is not personal privacy another issue altogether?  This topic has not been
> about personal privacy, but about corporate assessts, yes?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ron DuFresne
> 
> 

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