Hi Philip,

May I know which version of Winroute and BlackIce do you run because as you
say winroute logging is suck. And if you don't mind, could you elaborate me
a bit on how to make this 2 co-exist together...thanks a lot......
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From: "Phillip Askey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Darich Runyan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'David Lang'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Steven Pierce'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Kevin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'mouss'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Andrew Raphael'"
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:16 AM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Need advice regarding Linux or Windows firewalls


> I run a windowsnt workstation, Pentium 100 with 24 meg of ram and a 10 Mb
> connection(cable modem).  No problems.  Which btw, I run winroute on this
> box with blackice also installed.  Anyone out there have any problems with
> this personal firewall?  I have been running it for a couple of years with
> no problems.  Only drawback to this software is the logging stinks.  That
is
> why I have blackice for the better logging.  I am curious to see how
secure
> this nickel (winroute)firewall really is...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darich Runyan
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:59 PM
> To: 'David Lang'; Steven Pierce
> Cc: Kevin; mouss; Andrew Raphael; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: Need advice regarding Linux or Windows firewalls
>
>
> I'm running an OpenBSD FW on an old Sparc 5/110 with a 10 Mb connection.
No
> problems.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:37 AM
> To: Steven Pierce
> Cc: Kevin; mouss; Andrew Raphael; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Need advice regarding Linux or Windows firewalls
>
>
> I have run a 3Mb connection through a 486/50 with 8MB ram, no noticable
> slowing due to the firewall.
>
> so your slowest machine (unless it's <486) will be able to deal with your
> DSL without a problem.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Steven Pierce wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:26:55 -0800
> > From: Steven Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: mouss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Raphael
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Need advice regarding Linux or Windows firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > YES
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> > On 3/29/2001 at 11:21 Kevin wrote:
> >
> > >Is your dsl really that fast that your slowest machine cant handle it?
> > >Also I've never heard anyone saying to use a slow machine so as to
> > >deter or hamper an intruder.  I thought it was more of a why pay more
> > >if you dont need it type of deal.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Kevin - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-- Original message --
> > >
> > >
> > >> Mouss,
> > >
> > >> Very well stated.  I think you make a very valid point on this.
> > >
> > >> Steven
> > >
> > >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > >
> > >> On 3/29/2001 at 15:37 mouss wrote:
> > >
> > >>>At 12:38 29/03/01 +1000, Andrew Raphael wrote:
> > >>>>Use your slowest, smallest spare machine to run GNATBox Light from
> > >>>>www.gnatbox.com and protect your DSL network immediately.  It's
free,
> > >>>>supports 5 clients, and needs just 2 NIC cards and a floppy drive.
> > >>>>Then you can take your time evaluating the other suggestions on this
> > >>>>thread.
> > >>>
> > >>>I will certainly not use a slow machine as a FW since that would slow
> my own
> > >>>network:) The fact that that would slow an intruder is of no use to
me.
> > >>>intruders
> > >>>have all their time, but not me!
> > >>>I know that tis has been advocated by many respected people, and I
> respect
> > >>>them,
> > >>>but I don't share this opinion.
> > >>>
> > >>>A real example would be for a country to destroy all its highways,
> roads,
> > >>>railraods,
> > >>>... so that if an ennemy gets in, he will find it hard to move. the
> problem
> > >>>is that not only
> > >>>is this ineffective (if the ennemy comes in, he can afford to suffer
> since
> > >>>he is gaining
> > >>>enough), but bad for the country itself.
> > >>>                 the art of bore, mouss
> > >>>
> > >>>cheers,
> > >>>mouss
> > >>>
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