On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Laura A. Robinson wrote:

> As I said, you're being pedantic. Extremely so, at this point. SANS, for

No, I'm being accurate- it's like the difference between saying "The true
meaning of baud is bits per second" and saying "The popular meaning of
baud is bits per second."  One of the statements is facutally correct, the
other isn't.  Your choice of the term true was in error, get over it.

> one, doesn't agree with your rigid definition. Perhaps you should take the

My definition isn't as rigid as yours, mine says the "true" definition of
DMZ is the network that's outside the firewall and inside the border
router- look at the term itself- DMZ's are behind a defensive perimeter.
I readily agree that it's not the "popular" definition, but that still
doesn't make it the true one, unless you're willing to redefine the use of
the term true as well.  You say that you have the only real definition,
you're mistaken.

> task of bringing the world to your point of view to them.
>
> http://rr.sans.org/firewall/DMZ.php

(A) SANS isn't the keeper of the definitions, and (B) even on their own
site, you'll see the term "Service network" for example:

http://rr.sans.org/firewall/net_add2.php

> My definition was *quite* accurate. Your responses, however, indicate only

No, with the qualifier of "true," your definition was inaccurate.

> truculence and intractibility. If you secure your network in the same
> manner, then you're in for a few surprises. As I said in my original

I've probably been securing networks longer than you've been out of high
school- I doubt you've seen anything that would surprise me.

> response, a true DMZ may also lie between two firewalls. My statement was
> accurate, and your insistence has now just become ridiculous.

Without the qualifier "true," your statement would have been accurate, it
wasn't.

Paul
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