On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Laura A. Robinson wrote:

> Clearly you need to learn to read. I never said my definition was the *only*
> definition, unlike you. The only rigid definition is *yours*. Frankly, all

No, you said it was the TRUE definition.  That's true, which comes from
"faithful"- and indeed yours isn't the faithful definition, it's the
popular one.

> you're doing at this point is proving my point.

If you believe that, you should take some of your own reading advice.

> > My definition isn't as rigid as yours, mine says the "true" definition of
> > DMZ is the network that's outside the firewall and inside the border
> > router-
>
> Um, no, you explicitly stated otherwise. Reading clearly isn't your strong
> suit.
>
> Just in case you forgot what you wrote:
>
> "DMZ tradtitionally meant "network the external interface of the
> firewall and internal interface of the border router share."

We generally call the network that the external interface of the firewall
is plugged in to "outside the firewall," perhaps you're redefining
"outside" as well?  Got any other words you want to mean new things?

> > look at the term itself- DMZ's are behind a defensive perimeter.
>
> I never said otherwise; in fact, I stated exactly what you're saying above.

That was a typo, it's supposed to be "aren't"- the currently canonical
example being in Korea.  DMZ's are typically in *front* of defensive
positions, defensive positions being military by definition (you DO know
what DMZ stands for don't you?)

> Show me where I said the "only" definition was mine. You have serious
> problems.

Common usage is neither most accurate nor faithful- therefore it doesn't
mean "true."

> No, it wasn't. My original statement, in its entirety:
>
> "A "true" DMZ may have a firewall between the Internet and the DMZ, as well
> as between the DMZ and the intranet."
>
> Note the use of the words "may" and "also", dim bulb.

Note the use of the word "true"- in case you missed it, other words that
go with "true" are "faithful," "accurate," and "strict."  Unlit candle.

> I just love it when people wag their weenies like this. You haven't the
> vaguest idea how long I've been doing anything, nor do you have the vaguest
> idea how old I am. Clearly, I'm significantly older than *you* think I am

People my age and older generally use the term "true" in a manner that
doesn't fit with your use of the term.  If you've been doing this longer
then I have, then I feel sorry for your users.

Paul
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