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Chris Kirschke
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-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford Thurber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Brian Ford; Noonan Wesley; 'Mikael Olsson'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Digital Legends (was: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re:
Replacingmy old PIX Classic))


I don't have the link in front of me but I saw a news blurb that Cisco 
licensced QNX in 1998?



At 12:27 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, Brian Ford wrote:
>Wes,
>
>I don't know where you heard this legend about  IOS running on some other 
>OS....  It is not true.
>
>IOS is an operating system implemented directly on a hardware 
>platform.  There is no underlying operating system.  Look at your IOS 
>router for a "Boot Loader"; that's a small IOS kernel (and not a third 
>party OS).
>
>PIX OS ran many, many, many years ago on top of a real time OS (Finesse) 
>that was developed specifically for the hardware platform that the PIX 
>used at that time.  Today, the PIX OS runs directly on hardware (when you 
>look at the actual PIX source code you sometimes see references to the old 
>real time OS).
>
>You may be thinking of one of a number attempts (by third parties) to 
>create a program that runs on Unix that can execute an IOS or PIX 
>image.  The latest attempt at something like that was the "IOU" (IOS On 
>Unix) project.  I don't know how far that ever got.
>
>This claim that either IOS or PIX is a version of Unix or running on Unix 
>is becoming a kind of annual event.  Maybe someone will claim that all 
>Linux implementations actually runs on one copy of run-time Windows NT 
>v4.0 next?
>
>Liberty for All,
>
>Brian
>
>At 08:15 AM 4/18/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Message: 6
>>From: "Noonan, Wesley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'Clifford Thurber'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>         "'Mikael Olsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re: Replacing my old PIX Classic)
>>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:12:38 -0500
>>
>>A sizable chuck of Cisco (don't know for sure on the PIX, but I know on
>>their routers) runs an OS behind the scenes that is called Xenix, XNS, ZNS,
>>or something along those lines (I really don't recall the actual name). IOS
>>runs on top of that (is my understanding, kind of like how Banyan ran on top
>>of Unix). My point was simply, if one is going to cast the "a firewall is
>>only as strong as the underlying OS" stone, they need to be prepared to cast
>>that stone at virtually every firewall out there. It is hardly a ISA
>>specific issue (heck, FW1 runs on MS doesn't it?).
>>
>>Wes Noonan
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>281-208-8993
>

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