Chris,

Gee whiz.  Maybe I missed it.  Where does it say that QNX is used in 
IOS?  Or PIX?

It's not.

Liberty for All,

Brian

At 10:01 AM 4/18/2002 -0700, Chris Kirschke wrote:
>http://www.qnx.com/news/pr/may18_98-cisco.html
>
>Chris Kirschke
>Lead Engineer
>Astreya Partners, Inc
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Clifford Thurber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:36 AM
>To: Brian Ford; Noonan Wesley; 'Mikael Olsson'
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Digital Legends (was: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re:
>Replacingmy old PIX Classic))
>
>
>I don't have the link in front of me but I saw a news blurb that Cisco
>licensced QNX in 1998?
>
>
>
>At 12:27 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, Brian Ford wrote:
> >Wes,
> >
> >I don't know where you heard this legend about  IOS running on some other
> >OS....  It is not true.
> >
> >IOS is an operating system implemented directly on a hardware
> >platform.  There is no underlying operating system.  Look at your IOS
> >router for a "Boot Loader"; that's a small IOS kernel (and not a third
> >party OS).
> >
> >PIX OS ran many, many, many years ago on top of a real time OS (Finesse)
> >that was developed specifically for the hardware platform that the PIX
> >used at that time.  Today, the PIX OS runs directly on hardware (when you
> >look at the actual PIX source code you sometimes see references to the old
> >real time OS).
> >
> >You may be thinking of one of a number attempts (by third parties) to
> >create a program that runs on Unix that can execute an IOS or PIX
> >image.  The latest attempt at something like that was the "IOU" (IOS On
> >Unix) project.  I don't know how far that ever got.
> >
> >This claim that either IOS or PIX is a version of Unix or running on Unix
> >is becoming a kind of annual event.  Maybe someone will claim that all
> >Linux implementations actually runs on one copy of run-time Windows NT
> >v4.0 next?
> >
> >Liberty for All,
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >At 08:15 AM 4/18/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Message: 6
> >>From: "Noonan, Wesley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "'Clifford Thurber'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>         "'Mikael Olsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: RE: Microsoft ISA server (Was: Re: Replacing my old PIX Classic)
> >>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:12:38 -0500
> >>
> >>A sizable chuck of Cisco (don't know for sure on the PIX, but I know on
> >>their routers) runs an OS behind the scenes that is called Xenix, XNS, ZNS,
> >>or something along those lines (I really don't recall the actual name). IOS
> >>runs on top of that (is my understanding, kind of like how Banyan ran 
> on top
> >>of Unix). My point was simply, if one is going to cast the "a firewall is
> >>only as strong as the underlying OS" stone, they need to be prepared to 
> cast
> >>that stone at virtually every firewall out there. It is hardly a ISA
> >>specific issue (heck, FW1 runs on MS doesn't it?).
> >>
> >>Wes Noonan
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>281-208-8993
> >
>
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