Bob -- >Hi Stan - once again I enjoyed your remarks amplifying your original >comment. I would like to add that science only deals with formal cause and >not final cause. Final cause is for philosophers, social critics and >theologians.
S: Well, Bob, I will disagree with this. I think finalities have been subrosa AS such. It seems to me that variational principles erect finalities, in two senses. (1) Where some value must increase or decrease with any transaction, as with increase in entropy, or positive entropy production, in accordance with the Second Law of thermodynamics, or, in evolutionary biology, increase in fitness in Fisher's fundamental theorem of natural selection. (I will leave out certain interpretations of QM, because I don't understand them well enough.) To see in a stonger sense why the Second Law is finalistic, we place it in the context of the Big Bang. This ongoing event has created a thermodynamically nonequilibrium world (for this view we need the plausible supposition that the universe is an isolated system). Its tendency to gain equilibrium is the Second Law. This allows us to view the spontaneous dissipation of energy gradients as finalistic. Next, in order to see how dissipative structures, including the living, are involved in this finality, we note the critical fact of the poor energy efficiency of natural work with effective work loads -- somewhere around 50%. That is, work serving the creation and maintenance of such systems is about equally in the service of the Second Law. Thus, as I type this message, I try to communicate, but I am also contributing my share to Universal equilibration. Thus, two facts: the manifest disequilibrium partout, and the poor energy efficiency of work, allow us to find finality in the Second Law.. (2) Where some equation descriptive of a system cannot be solved unless a parameter is minimized or maximized. Here the finality is erected by the observer, but the observed could not be known without it. It is therefore only known by way of a portal through final cause, which in this case might be said to be virtual in Nature as known through science. It needs to be realized that Nature is known ONLY through its observers. That is to say, the observer's properties mingle with Nature's. STAN _______________________________________________ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis