Caro Joseph, grazie per le Tue parole. All'inizio degli anni Ottanta ho introdotto il concetto-processo di informazione (azione del dare o prendere forma nel tempo) In "Economia dei beni culturali"(1983), divenuto "Economia del patrimonio architettonico-ambientale" nel 1989 (FrancoAngeli, Milano), in cui fra l'altro definisco i beni culturali neg-entropici. Inoltre ho impiegato la parola composta tras-in-form-azione (azione del dare o prendere forma nel tempo che non può non tras-formarsi) alla città durante lo svolgimento del corso di economia urbana e regionale nella Facoltà di Architettura di Palermo, nell'A.a. 1984-85. Ma quel che conta di più è l'avere concepito l'attività di produzione economica (in senso generale) come un processo di tras-informazione i cui "input" (materia, energia e informazione) e "output" (materia, energia e informazione) sono neg-entropia ed entropia. Quindi la mia teoria del valore (che non vale solo per l'economia in senso stretto) può definirsi- in modo semplice- combinazione creativa di energia e informazione e, in modo più complesso, triangolo dei tre surplus o neg-entropie: termodinamici o naturali, eco-biologici e storico-culturali. Sicché la teoria del valore-utilità marginale degli economisti neoclassici è sorpassata e da buttare alle ortiche. Difatti la "Nuova economia" è in-centrata sull'episteme psico-fisica,semiotico-ermeneutica e biologico-tecnologica. Insomma, penso davvero di avere inventato una nuova scienza dell'economia o economia della scienza. Per questo appena Pedro ha ri-parlato di informazione sono stato stimolato a mandare il messaggio precedente. Ribadisco, però, che non intendo menare alcun vanto. Cordiali saluti. Francesco Rizzo.
2014-06-06 9:49 GMT+02:00 Joseph Brenner <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>: > Dear Francesco, > > Thank you for a most interesting overview of your work. What I would be > most interested in would be a summary of the real processes underlying > "trans-in-form-action" and its relation to information - and > "trans-information". The use of the prefix 'trans-' in transdisciplinarity > is intended (by Nicolescu) to refer to something that lies within, between > and beyond specific disciplines. Another non-trivial use of 'trans-' was > made by Pedro. > > (Some 14 years ago, I defined 'trans-creation' as the creation of artistic > documents or objects with some social relevance, that is, to the common > good. It is important to understand, in this connection, how information > carries such relevance.) > > If you prefer to answer in Italian rather than English, unless there is > someone else in the group with Italian-language skills, I would undertake > to make a rough translation (or edit a machine-translation). > > Best regards, > > Joseph > > (Joseph E. Brenner, Ph.D.) > VP-Inter-and Transdisciplinarity, International Society for Information > Science) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Francesco Rizzo <13francesco.ri...@gmail.com> > *To:* Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es> > *Cc:* fis@listas.unizar.es > *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Information Science and the City > > Caro Pedro e cari tutti, > mi permetto di segnalarVi che la mia "Nuova economia" è basata sul > processo di tras-in-form-azione. Si cfr. a tal proposito, fra i tanti > altri: > -Rizzo F., ""Valore e valutazioni. La scienza dell'economia o l'economia > della scienza", FancoAngeli, Milano 1999; > -Rizzo F., "Nuova economia. Felicità del lavoro creativo e della > conservazione della natura. Infelicità della speculazione finanziaria", > Aracne editrice, Roma, 2013; > -Rizzo F., "Incontro d'amore tra il cuore della fede e l'intelligenza > della scienza. Un salto nel cielo", Aracne editrice, Roma 2014. > Ho dedicato mezzo secolo di ricerca per ri-comprendere e ri-significare la > scienza economica. Quello che scrivo non è una presunzione. > Auguri per un'intensa ripresa e grazie. > Francesco Rizzo. > > > > 2014-06-05 14:25 GMT+02:00 Pedro C. Marijuan <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>: > >> Dear FISers, >> >> Among the many interesting themes where the information science >> perspective may provide useful orientations, cities are one of the most >> singular. A recent work by Michel Batty on the New Science of Cities (2013, >> MIT) makes a lot of connections with our oft discussed info topics. A >> Communication Theory of Urban Growth was developed by Richard Meier (1962); >> a fluxes perspective was already attempted by Patrick Geddes (1949). In >> essence I have found that the idea of information flows and material flows >> as catching and intertwining each other, with their highly different >> regimes, heterogeneity and energy contents, appears as an important focus >> in order to better understand the globalized city. Scaling is one of the >> essential concepts... >> >> I am not aware that scaling has been applied to the informational >> analysis itself (obviously it is the cornerstone of self-similarity). What >> I mean is that a micro-level of communication analysis may be quite >> different from the meso-level, and the from macro-level. Thinking in the >> human case (biologically it could make sense too) the micro level is >> dominated by syntaxis, by a Shannonian type of analysis on messages emitted >> from a sourced to a receiver. The meso level contains meaning, value >> (fitness), purpose, and in general it implies the communication associated >> to the behavioral episodes and living rhythms of individuals. While in the >> macro level, many individuals' actions, works, products, etc. are >> aggregated into fluxes or flows, basically of two kinds those devoted to >> the material (self-production) and those carrying the info stuff devoted to >> communication; then it invites analysis of network science, operations >> research, economic efficiency, etc., and of course the direct flow >> perspective as Bejan and Peder (2011) have attempted in one of the most >> interesting theories on self-constructing flow systems. Depending on the >> information perspective in which we observe human communication, we will >> need one or another lens to better make sense of what is happening. >> >> My impression is that a more mature info science could be quite helpful >> in this new field of urban development science --most people nowadays are >> living in cities. Top down planning will fail if it is does not match with >> the bottom up processes, both in communication and self-production aspects. >> Keeping an adequate social flow of information, a well-mixed regime of >> communication, is the essence of democracy. The contemporary "epidemics of >> loneliness" for instance may be due among other social and demographic >> causes to failures in bureaucratic high level planning... >> >> best ---Pedro >> >> PS. After the nasty computer crash months ago, we should try to enliven >> the list--shouldn't we? >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Pedro C. 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