Il en a une definition formelle, mathematique, pratique du ce qui est nomme "information" contenu dans ma livre Ordres Naturels. Amazon et al. Karl
On 4 Nov 2016 15:43, "Michel Godron" <migod...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: I may understand why in "quantum foundations" nobody can define rigorously the basic term "information". But, in agreement with Progogine, Brillouin, etc. information mays be defined rigorously in macro -systems. I could explain more in french. Cordialement. M. Godron Le 04/11/2016 à 09:17, Andrei Khrennikov a écrit : > Dear all, > I want to comment so called information approach to physics, by speaking > with hundreds of leading experts > in quantum foundations, I found that nobody can define rigorously the > basic term "information" which is so widely > used in their theories and discussions, the answers are as "information is > the basic entity" which cannot be defined > in other terms. Well, my impression is that without novel understanding > and definition of information all these "theories" > are practically empty, well very good mathematical exercises. May be I am > too critical... But I spent so much time by trying > to understand what people are talking about. The output is ZERO. > > all the best, andrei > > Andrei Khrennikov, Professor of Applied Mathematics, > Int. Center Math Modeling: Physics, Engineering, Economics, and Cognitive > Sc. > Linnaeus University, Växjö, Sweden > My RECENT BOOKS: > http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/p1036 > http://www.springer.com/in/book/9789401798181 > http://www.panstanford.com/books/9789814411738.html > http://www.cambridge.org/cr/academic/subjects/physics/econop > hysics-and-financial-physics/quantum-social-science > http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 > > ________________________________________ > From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [ > darv...@iif.hu] > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:23 PM > To: John Collier; fis > Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? > > John: > The article describes very really the conflicting attitudes. Interesting > to see the diverse arguments together. > I agree, some think so, some do not. I do the latter, but this does not > make any matter. > Gyuri > > On 2016.11.03. 19:52, John Collier wrote: > Apparently some physicists think so. > > https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tangled-up-in-spa > cetime/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20161102 > > John Collier > Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate > Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal > http://web.ncf.ca/collier > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:Fis@listas.unizar.es> > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > _______________________________________________ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
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