On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:27 PM, James Bowlin <bow...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Grissiom said:
>> man is OK on my machine? What is your encoding settings(LC_*) on
>> your box? If it is UTF-8, you may go to see /usr/lib/man.conf and
>> remove the -T option of the NROFF command.
>
> The only LC_* I have set is LC_ALL="C". The NROFF line from man.conf
> is:
>
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -c
>
Strange... Mine is "NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc" no -c option.
>> > [...]
>> > In general, when giving help, whether with tab-completion or some
>> > other mechanism (such as "help --help") when there are more than a
>> > few options, we want to give the user less than a screenful of
>> > information giving them a few options on how to get more
>> > information of a more specific nature. Anytime the user has to
>> > scroll an alphabetical list of options, those options should be as
>> > homogeneous as possible.
>>
>> Maybe I'm lost in the thread. I think we are talking about change help
>> to display pages in terminal instead of a new browser. Is this
>> correct?
>
> Yes, it was about displaying help in the terminal. I believe the
> limitations of the current completion system keep us from making
> optimal use of help in the terminal. Currently "help <tab>" creates
> several pages of output which I think is too much. One work-around
> would be to violate one of the design principles and create
> "help-command" and "help-topic" functions in addition to plain
> "help".
tab completion is great. But I think the reason that help in fish launch
a browser is for highly desktop integration. Look at "open", "mimedb",
why we need them in a terminal? It's intend to be used within a DE.
I'm not the maintainer nor a BDFL in fish development. But I think changing
the original design is bad. It might be good to add but it intend to be wrong
to remove.
I won't object display help in terminal as long as:
1, changes go into fish-next
2, "help" should keep the old behavior except some bug fix(check whether
DISPLAY is local and other)
3, new command should have an other name. "help-term" might be OK.
IMHO, a new option in old help is not as good as a different name because
users can use command tab completion in order to type less when they
want help.
--
Cheers,
Grissiom
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