This message is from: Cherrie Nolden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Karen, Sorry for the slow response. I'm out of town with limited internet access. No need to yield anything, as I'm always learning also. These conversations challenge me to review my understanding and I LOVE it! I'm interested in talking with you about how you think about the colors. I've found ways that make sense to me, but I would love to be able to think about the inheritance from a different perspective and be able to describe it from that perspective if people have a hard time grasping the way I best understand and explain inheritance. If you are interested in sharing, could you send me your phone number? I've not understood the naming conventions of some of the colors. Brown dun, red dun, white dun and yellow dun make sense to me, especially for non-Fjord folks who may not understand that the dun dilution is always present in this breed. Why black dilutes are officially called Grey, and not mouse dun or grulla or gray dun (grey if using the European spelling), seems confusing to me since the true gray/grey is not even a color option in Fjords. And why we are calling the Kvit colors Albino on the NFHR pedigree site seems very misleading. Albinos have no pigment and red eyes. Kvit Fjords still have a bit of melanin in their skin and hair, and they have blue eyes. Anybody out there have any insight on these conventions? Cherrie
--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Karen Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Karen Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Fjord coloring ? To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 10:29 PM This message is from: Karen Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Cherrie: Too funny! The day I decide to climb up on a soapbox about color genetics it's in response to a molecular biologist. LOL! I yield the floor. Perhaps, though, my explanation will be helpful to folks whose brains work like mine. I can muddle through the alleles and capital letters and lower case letters denoting genes, but it really is a muddle for me and hard work. I have to keep going back to charts and reviewing. I see the base horse colors as hues on a color wheel, and the dun and creme dilutions as a tints and tones, creating the lovely dun and creme coats. Does anyone else remember junior high art class? Start with red, add a tint of white and you get pink! http://creativecurio.com/2008/05/the-color-wheel-and-color-theory/ I know it's simplistic but it works for me. And you're right, since all Fjords are some color of dun, referring to them as red dun, brown dun, etc., one might say is re-dun-dant! :^) Cheers! Karen _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
