Sorry if my post came across as pro-PHP. Trust me, I'm anything but that. I
guess I should've added some benefits of Java over PHP. Java is much more
scalable than PHP (by a long shot). I don't think I would ever want to build
anything using PHP, except maybe an image gallery with limited server
functionality needed. Everything I've ever had to build with has had some
major backend/model framework in place to interface with, and I would much
rather have that sledgehammer there to get things working exactly how you
want it rather than peruse through 10000 lines of script code.

If anything, I'm much more of a full-blown OOP/structured language fanboy
and would rather work with .NET/Java than touch PHP.


David


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wheeler
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Backend compiled Java or scripted PHP?

Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, AXIS and Java is a pretty nice toolkit.

Ron

David Ngo wrote:
> Well, in my opinion, Java is much more OOP. PHP is really nothing more
than
> just scripts. It will eventually hit a ceiling and be limited in what it
can
> do. Java, on the other hand, is much more robust, which is why the
majority
> of large corporations still use Java as their application backbone. But as
> with anything too complex, it's also very complex to set up. Java will
need
> its own application container/server to run on and setting that up takes a
> lot of time, money and even more effort to get it working right.
>
> PHP on the other hand, is very easy to implement and deploy. It can be
quite
> powerful if used correctly and there are tons of frameworks out for PHP to
> help lighten development time. I would say to look at your requirements
and
> see what the best fit for your needs are.
>
>  
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weldon
> MacDonald
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:01 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: [Flashcoders] Backend compiled Java or scripted PHP?
>
> I've been using ActionScript for a while now, but my next project will
> require a lot more server side work. In the past I've used PHP, but
> only in a pidgin kind of way. alternatively, I have some Java skills,
> though not specifically for the web. Either way I have to spend some
> time developing an appropriate skill level, the question becomes,
> which skills.
>
> The times I've used PHP, it seemed straight forward enough, and from
> what I've read Java is a little trickier to implement on the web
> (correct?). On the other hand, PHP is a pretty specific niche whereas
> Java has a much wider usefulness (correct?)
>
> There are a lot of strong opinions out there.
>
> Andreessen: PHP succeeding where Java isn't
> http://news.com.com/2100-1012-5903187.html?tag=tb
>
> and  in response,
>
> How they can compare PHP with Java at all? (most people who are
> praising PHP are either bad programmers or they are not programmers at
> all)
>
http://news.com.com/5208-1012_3-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=10712&messageID=78
> 718&start=0
>
> PHP is faster to develop, java is faster to run, or is that runs faster?
> PHP is harder to maintain, and Java has more tools ...etc...
>
> What's a guy to beloieve? Any opin... any more opinions?
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