I'll settle for actionscript 3 replacing JavaScript in the browser :)

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On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Karina Steffens <kar...@neo-archaic.net> wrote:

> Happy New Year to all of you, all the best wishes for 2012!
> May the world remain intact, and Flash replace HTML5 as the new web standard 
> ;-)
> 
> Karina
> 
> 
> 
> On 31 Dec 2011, at 12:31, Karl DeSaulniers <k...@designdrumm.com> wrote:
> 
>> Actually that JS, man, she has some pretty nice curves.. (wink)
>> 
>> Me personally, I like HTML + XML + JS + PHP + Flash.
>> They REALLY know how to party together.. :) And when the mood is right they 
>> put on a spectacular show!
>> Just watch out for XML, she likes to tie you up. ;) and well.. you know, 
>> Flash gots' all the toys.
>> After a few go-arounds with any of them and they tell you all their secrets. 
>> (But keep that on the hush hush.. =)
>> You can never have too many Codewatch Babes in your bungalow.. you never 
>> know when one will up and leave... ;)
>> 
>> Make it a real one people!
>> THANK YOU ALL for all your help this last year..
>> See you on the other side.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 31, 2011, at 5:59 AM, Peter Ginneberge wrote:
>> 
>>>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another 
>>>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something 
>>>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on 
>>>> Flash and I do not want to!
>>> 
>>> I understand what you're saying.
>>> When I started learning Java (not so very long ago) I got frustrated by the 
>>> mess that is JSP and Servlets.
>>> That is why I'm so glad I finally found something like GWT to make web apps 
>>> more or less the way I'm used to in Flex (I stopped using Flash around v8).
>>> Meaning, OOP, MVP, etc..
>>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideMvpActivitiesAndPlaces.html
>>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html
>>> 
>>> If you look at this project structure: 
>>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/images/contacts-project-hierarchy.png
>>> That's almost exactly what it would look like in Flex when using Cairngorm 
>>> for instance, but without the Command pattern.
>>> There's libraries out there that do have a Command implementation.
>>> 
>>> And with GWT you can use a declarative xml like structure for layout, close 
>>> to Flex' MXML:
>>> http://code.google.com/intl/nl/webtoolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideUiBinder.html
>>> 
>>>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash?
>>>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
>>>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 
>>>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to 
>>>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the 
>>>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another 
>>>> programming language?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hear ya !
>>> I just love Flex, I really do. The thing is, in a few years time (I'm 
>>> guessing) plugins will be a thing of the past.
>>> Windows 8 is already moving in that direction. So it will simply be a 
>>> matter of: "we don't have a choice."
>>> 
>>> I mentioned this on FlexCoders already. If Adobe - moving away from the 
>>> Flash plugin - would make FlashBuilder into something that spits out 
>>> HTML/JS web apps much like GWT now does with Java, I'd be all over it. And 
>>> I'm sure I'm not the only one :)
>>> 
>>> The power and beauty of ActionScript+MXML to build the apps we're used to 
>>> and not having to touch the ugliness that is JS/HTML.
>>> That'd be my wish for 2012 :)
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> Muzak
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ima Newsletta" 
>>> <bignewsletter...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "Flash Coders List" <flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Muzak,
>>>> Very interesting links!
>>>> 
>>>> However I said "easily" :-)
>>>> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another 
>>>> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something 
>>>> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on 
>>>> Flash and I do not want to!
>>>> 
>>>> In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the 
>>>> new devices.
>>>> 
>>>> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash?
>>>> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
>>>> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5 
>>>> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to 
>>>> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the 
>>>> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another 
>>>> programming language?
>>>> 
>>>> So right now, I stay with Flash.
>>>> 
>>>> Happy new year to everyone.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto:
>>>>> Sorry for the late reply..
>>>>> 
>>>>>> With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android 
>>>>>> apps and ios apps?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yup, except for desktop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps.
>>>>> Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps  with GWT yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007.
>>>>> http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html
>>>>> The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has 
>>>>> changed (improved) since then.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of 
>>>>> development.
>>>>> Smart GWT: http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/
>>>>> GWT Mobile: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/
>>>>> Ext GWT: http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/
>>>>> etc..
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Muzak
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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>> Karl DeSaulniers
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