my take on this is that you shouldn't be scared to learn a new language,
they come and go, your long experience in flash is also a long experience
in programming gui's and games and apps. the fundamentals of all these
things stay the same, no matter what the language. your experience is not
wasted. i actually think it's pretty funny that some of the canvas examples
that some people are really impressed with could have been done easily in
flash 5 ;) so in some ways you will be ahead of the game a little bit too.

On 31 December 2011 10:12, Ima Newsletta <bignewsletter...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Muzak,
> Very interesting links!
>
> However I said "easily" :-)
> With "easily" I was meaning that you do not have to teach yourself another
> programming language: more than that, I'm not scared by learning something
> new, I'm scared by the fact that I will lose all my long experience on
> Flash and I do not want to!
>
> In some time, performance won't be a trouble at all seen the power of the
> new devices.
>
> So why must I dismiss such a powerful thing like Flash?
> Just because it's fancy to say "Flash is dead"?
> What wil happen when softwarehouses that right now are focusing on html 5
> (or other things) will finally realize that with flash you can export to
> iPhone, iPad and Android with a simple click and for this reason the
> developing process is faster than any other thing done in another
> programming language?
>
> So right now, I stay with Flash.
>
> Happy new year to everyone.
>
>
> Il 31/12/2011 03:27, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto:
>
>  Sorry for the late reply..
>>
>>  With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android
>>> apps and ios apps?
>>>
>>
>> Yup, except for desktop.
>>
>> Once compiled, they're plain HTML/JS apps.
>> Mind you, I haven't done any Android and/or iOS apps  with GWT yet.
>>
>> Just goodle "GTW ios" for instance and you'll find the stuff you need.
>>
>> Here's a "how-to" - note the date --> 2007.
>> http://code.google.com/intl/**en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-**iphone.html<http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/articles/gwt-iphone.html>
>> The article is for GWT 1.4. The current version is 2.4 and alot has
>> changed (improved) since then.
>>
>> And there's all sorts of additional libraries available for all kinds of
>> development.
>> Smart GWT: 
>> http://code.google.com/p/**smartgwt/<http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/>
>> GWT Mobile: 
>> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-**mobile-webkit/<http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mobile-webkit/>
>> Ext GWT: 
>> http://www.sencha.com/**products/extgwt/<http://www.sencha.com/products/extgwt/>
>> etc..
>>
>> As for desktop apps, you could wrap your GWT with AIR :)
>>
>> regards,
>> Muzak
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ima Newsletta" <
>> bignewsletter...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Flash Coders List" 
>> <flashcoders@chattyfig.**figleaf.com<flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com>
>> >
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Adobe is my down-ass chick
>>
>>
>>  If you leave that chick, she can be all mine then.
>>> With your new chicks can you easily make web apps, desktop apps, android
>>> apps and ios apps?
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 29/12/2011 05:32, Peter Ginneberge ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Sure, we're never getting back in an exclusive relationship, but as
>>>>> long as she's willing to party, I'll keep her around until I find my next
>>>>> true love.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Already found mine. She's called GWT and she rocks. Still a bit rough
>>>> around the edges, but she's getting there.
>>>> Now if Flex (FlashBuilder) would do the things GWT does, I'd be willing
>>>> to take her back.
>>>>
>>>> And oh yeah, if you wanna hang with GWT, you have to get in bed with
>>>> Java as well.. but I don't mind that at all :)
>>>>
>>>> Muzak
>>>>
>>>> ps: GWT -> Google Web Toolkit
>>>> http://code.google.com/intl/**en/webtoolkit/<http://code.google.com/intl/en/webtoolkit/>
>>>>
>>>
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