Of course if you have got some external routine that updates a bunch 
of props all in one go and then creates and dispatches the event the 
you can use variables but thats not the typical case and not really 
viable if we are talking about a class that maybe in a collection 
and/or bound to UI input controls or the DataGrid and it is getting 
updated one property at a time dependent on what the user is doing.
Anyway thanks for ur viewpoint, I followed JM advise and its doing 
what I need to do for now, so I am happy lol.
tks



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Johannes Nel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> no you need to dispatch the event yourself. as i said in some cases 
a
> get/set pair is needed, but not always. my strategy is to have 
multiple
> events that updates multple properties dependent on which group 
changed.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM, reflexactions 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> >   Yeah but if u dont have a get/set how do you know the property
> > changed and who will fires the event, or are you saying that Flex
> > automatically creates and dispatches the event for you?
> >
> > tks
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Johannes Nel" <johannes.nel@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > >>I'm fairly certain you do need get/set functions to use custom
> > events.
> > > actually not.
> > >
> > > [Bindable("event")]
> > > public var lala:Type;
> > >
> > > and an ad hoc event being dispatched works well. if the 
property is
> > > being set on your model and you wish to dispatch a custom event,
> > > creating a setter is the way to do it, but managing 
invalidations
> > > based on logic and dispatching events can allow you to manage
> > > multiple properties in batch schemas. remember that you can also
> > have
> > >
> > > [Bindable("event2")]
> > > [Bindable("event1")]
> > > [Bindable("event")]
> > > public var lala:Type;
> > >
> > > as for generators, i used to use python, these days i use JET 
which
> > is
> > > native to eclipse.
> > > I would also recomend having a look at the eclipse modeling
> > framework,
> > > GEF, GMF and such things if you like code generation.
> > >
> > > On 9/3/08, Josh McDonald <dznuts@> wrote:
> > > > I'm fairly certain you do need get/set functions to use custom
> > events. It
> > > > might be a pain, but unfortunately it's when you have objects
> > with many
> > > > bindable fields that you're more likely to need the custom 
events
> > (otherwise
> > > > binding becomes very cpu-intensive).
> > > >
> > > > -Josh
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Johannes Nel <johannes.nel@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> it does depend on the scale of your application. first off, 
to
> > use custom
> > > >> events you do not need getters and setters, but it does 
depend
> > on how you
> > > >> want to use it. my personal feeling around models are that 
they
> > should
> > > >> always be generated, its such a waste of time to code 'em by
> > hand.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:28 PM, reflexactions
> > > >> <reflexactions@>wrote:
> >
> > > >>
> > > >>> But then you have to write all the event creation and
> > dispatch, plus
> > > >>> all the getter/setter.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That might be fair enough if you have a handful of props 
but if
> > this
> > > >>> is a couple of data classes with says 100 props each thats
> > quite a
> > > >>> bit of typing when all you want is a couple of props not to 
fire
> > > >>> events when they change... unless there is a tool to 
generate
> > the
> > > >>> code from a list of variables.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Personally in some cases I use custom events and others I 
am ok
> > with
> > > >>> the default handling, depends on what I am doing as to 
which is
> > more
> > > >>> suited to the situation.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <flexcoders%
40yahoogroups.com><flexcoders%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > >>> "Johannes Nel" <johannes.nel@>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > using custom events with your bindable metadata is not 
only
> > best
> > > >>> practice
> > > >>> > but allows you to decide which properties you want to 
refresh.
> > > >>> > [Bindable("myEvent")]
> > > >>> > i would recomend using this at all times.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Josh McDonald <dznuts@> 
wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > > What it does is renames your variables, and creates 
get/set
> > > >>> methods, but
> > > >>> > > it doesn't wrap the whole class.
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > So unfortunately it's either all-or-none with the class-
> > level
> > > >>> [Bindable]
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > -Josh
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:01 PM, reflexactions
> > > >>> <reflexactions@>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >> Ah ok..
> > > >>> > >> I had thought the compiler generated a wrapper or sub 
class
> > > >>> behind
> > > >>> > >> the scenes when you used the bindable tag...
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> Well ok learn something new eahc day...
> > > >>> > >> tks
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com<flexcoders%
40yahoogroups.com><flexcoders%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > >>> "Josh McDonald" <dznuts@>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > Nope. [Bindable] on a class doesn't wrap the class, 
it's
> > just
> > > >>> > >> exactly the
> > > >>> > >> > same as putting [Bindable] on every public field.
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > -Josh
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:45 PM, reflexactions
> > > >>> > >> <reflexactions@>wrote:
> > > >>> > >> >
> > > >>> > >> > > If I add the Bindable tag at a class level every
> > property is
> > > >>> > >> wrapped in
> > > >>> > >> > > by a sort of proxy that then raises PropertyChange
> > events as
> > > >>> > >> > > appropriate.
> > > >>> > >> > >
> > > >>> > >> > > This certainly saves a lot of time instead of 
having
> > to go
> > > >>> > >> through a
> > > >>> > >> > > class and add Bindable to every single property.
> > > >>> > >> > >
> > > >>> > >> > > But...
> > > >>> > >> > > What if there is one property that I dont want to 
be
> > > >>> Bindable and
> > > >>> > >> more
> > > >>> > >> > > importantly I dont want it to raise PropertyChange
> > events.
> > > >>> > >> > >
> > > >>> > >> > > Is there same NonBindable tag to achieve this???
> > > >>> > >> > >
> > > >>> > >> > > tks
> > > >>> > >> > >
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