UhŠ the original question is pretty simple - "can you do anything [ like the
link provided ] in HTML / CSS?" The short answer is, "yes." Since you opened
a can of wormsŠ I'll bite.

"Specs not yet finishedŠ" blah blah blah. If you're looking for a language
to get carved in stone before you write a line of codeŠ good luck. There are
plenty of apps out there that are working just fine on 'draft' technology.
Innovation typically drives change ­ not the other way around.

"Newer featuresŠ" bah! If you find a browser that supports the features you
must haveŠ try to standardize on that browser if you can. If you can'tŠ then
cross that bridge if you have to come to it and not before. Getting your
panties in a wad over something that isn't on your plate is a waste of time.

"One code-base everywhereŠ" Urk. Really? I thought that was what Flash was
supposed to do! SeriouslyŠ I don't know what you're trying to say here. If
you need an HTML/CSS app that runs just about anywhereŠ wrap it in AIR and
move on. Did he even state that it needs to run on desktop, mobile, tablets,
and the voyager I spacecraft?

"Any good programmerŠ" barf. I do get sick of pious comments like this. I
mean ­ the guy just asked a simple question. Architecture is a subject best
served after a developer has a chance to get cozy with the technology. I
mean ­ I appreciate your desire to go deep on this question but reallyŠ milk
before meat. The question was simple ­ if he needs more ­ let the subject
blossom. 


From:  Robert VanCuren Jr <robert.vancuren...@gmail.com>
Reply-To:  "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:01:27 -0500
To:  "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

 
 
 
   

There is no one size fits all solution if you want to build a complex
application. Flash might be a good choice for one and HTML for another and
you might need to go native depending on what you are trying to do. Maybe
you even want to use Java or Silverlight!

When you ask if you can do something in HTML5/JS/CSS you need to keep in
mind that many of the specs are not yet finished. It will be several more
years before they are even in the recommendation phase. So while it may be
possible to do some things in some browsers HTML5/JS/CSS is far from being
cross platform ready. Standards move slow by their nature and because of
that browser vendors will release features before the standards are
finished, many times that means that each browser will have a different API
or implementation for the same feature.

If you are going to use newer html features it is recommended that you only
use the ones that are relatively stable. May of the really cool features
that you will want to use are not yet production ready and should be avoided
for a real project. Of course if you can limit your scope to a couple
browsers there is a lot more you can do.

All of that said you can make some really kick ass stuff using the HTML5,
CSS3, and JavaScript. There are tons of libraries that will abstract out the
browser specific things and attempt to make one code base work everywhere.
Things like Modernizr, Three.js, Dojo, jQuery, EaselJS ,ect, ect. Even when
using these libraries there are performance differences across devices and
even browser versions. Making a web application that really works across
platforms and devices is not a trivial task.

Take a look at some of the stuff you can do
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/demos/
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/

As any good developer knows you should always choose your technology on a
per project basis and not because one tech is cooler than the other. In many
cases it may be require to have multiple versions of your application to
cover your whole target market. The project I am currently working on has a
native Android and iOS app, along with an HTML5 and Flash version so that we
could get as much coverage as possible. Sure its a pain but if you really
want cross platform that is whats required.

Some things are not even possible with out a native app on certain devices.
Things like file I/O and Audio are very lacking in most browsers. Sometimes
you just have to go native.

Do not be afraid to learn a new language or two it will be good for you.
Also make sure to pick the right tech for what you are trying to build.
Again there is no holy grail that will let you write code once and work
absolutely everywhere, it just does not exist. Choose your tech wisely!

On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Rick Winscot <rick.wins...@zyche.com>
wrote:
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> The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole? YesŠ I'd recommend looking into
> the ExtJS samples at Sencha.
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> http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/
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> From:  Dave Glasser <dglas...@pobox.com>
> Reply-To:  "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
> Date:  Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:22:39 -0800 (PST)
> To:  "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject:  Re: [flexcoders] You are the product
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> Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS?
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> http://examples2.idashboards.com/idashboards/?guestuser=wputil1&dashID=260
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> If so, do you have any links to examples?
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> From: Guy Morton <g...@alchemy.com.au <mailto:guy%40alchemy.com.au> >
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> Using HTML/JS/CSS you CAN do apps that look every bit as nice as Flash apps,
> and they run everywhere.
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