Well Ron, I don't agree with you. There is a difference between a reality and our own perception. I have seen a huge demand for flex based solution in Education (hmh, piersons) Finance (j p morgon, boa) Healthcare (hospira) Entertainment (directv) Ecommerce ( eBay ) and the list goes on and on...
If as of today companies decide to change the strategy and port all the existing flex based application into HTML 5, then it would take around 5 years to do so as HTML 5 is still not mature for web and desktop. Check the percent of browser which support HTML 5. N what about desktop apps that are so beautifully created using adobe air. My personal thought is that some people are trying to take advantage of this bad rumours and advertising the dead tools which were existed for years. Please be patience and watch the change. N Stop spreading the rumours. Regards Rishi Tandon Software Development Adviser Flex Sent from my iPad On 13-Jan-2012, at 7:40 AM, "Ron G" <rgri...@sinclairoil.com> wrote: > > > So, I think we have a similar vision for where things are going with respect > to Adobe supporting HTML5 for the enterprise. But, I fail to see why Flex and > FlashBuilder would have any part of that. Why not just fall back to your > excellent product, Dreamweaver, and enhance it as the IDE for building HTML5 > style web applications? No translation is then required. > > I too like the FlashBuilder/Flex paradigm for development. But, it seems to > me that, sooner or later, what you end up with is the FlashBuilder paradigm > that allows the user to code with a pseudo OO type of HTML5 as an alternative > option to MXML and AS3, since we agree that it's not the translation from as3 > to HTML5 that makes sense, but the paradigm itself. > > As for "that doesn't mean you should stop using Flex/ActionScript/FlashPlayer > right now", I would disagree. Over the past dozen years, I have already gone > through 4 generations of web architecture: > > 1) CGI > 2) server side XSLT transformation rendering a DHTML web page for client side > 3) Flash 2004 until Adobe abandoned the push for developers to use Flash for > applications and created... > 4) Flex > > I would like to settle upon a single client-side technology that I can rely > upon to be here in 15 years. Novell and Adobe have failed me in this regard. > The only piece of my stack to not drop the ball on me is Java, which is why > we are going with a Java based framework where the UI logic can reside server > side. > > Do you know how hard it is to hire someone that can come in and be competent > in all 4 of my web architecture generations? Very difficult. So, it's better > to stop developing in Flex now so that I have less older generation > architectures to eventually convert to ZKoss. Once that is done, finding > someone who can help maintain all of our projects becomes a much easier task. > > Anyway, I very much appreciate hearing from an Adobe Flex SDK staff member. > You have helped clarify that the direction I am taking is the right one. > Hopefully, it's convinced a few others to not waste time writing in a > technology that will one day require migration of an even greater backlog of > projects to their inevitably new chosen technology stack. > > Ron > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Alex Harui <aharui@...> wrote: > > > I'm not in disagreement that in the long term, the advantages of > > Flex/ActionScript/FlashPlayer will be diminished by advances in the > > HTML/CSS/JS stack. That's why Adobe has made a major strategic shift to > > become the tooling leader in the HTML stack. But that doesn't mean that you > > should stop using Flex/ActionScript/FlashPlayer right now. > > > > Many folks who work with HTML/CSS/JS, even using the many libraries and > > development methodologies available for it, still feel like the Flex > > paradigm is superior. Apparently, even Google agrees because they are > > trying to create their own version of that paradigm with DART. While > > translated code is never as good, the productivity advantages of a better > > paradigm have been pretty much proven to be worth it, otherwise, Flex > > wouldn't have been that successful either since MXML isn't as efficient as > > pure ActionScript, and Google wouldn't have invested so much in writing > > their website logic in Java and/or Google Closure and/or DART. > > > > There is general support in the Apache Flex project for exploring ways of > > using the Flex paradigm to create HTML5 apps. Those working on the project > > are motivated to future-proof their investment in Flex. I don't see any > > technical issue blocking us from translating the paradigm to HTML5, and I > > invite all those who like the Flex paradigm to participate. But at the same > > time, there is lots of work to be done, lots of solutions to be built, and > > lots of money to be made on the Flex/AS/FP stack while we wait for the > > HTML5 stack to deliver on its promises. > >
