45,894 books on Flex??? That number must be so much off, given that
the search for "Adobe Flex" on Amazon returns just 6.

Mark

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, DUANE NICKULL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What drives learning/adoption is jobs.  When there are Flex jobs,  
> there will be Flex coders taking those jobs.  The metrics I used for  
> Perl/Java/Flex are not perfect but I have found this method to be  
> very accurate in the past to predicting trends in the market.   Given  
> Perl and Java are both incumbent programming languages, the odds are  
> stacked against Flex which is really a programming model/platform  
> rather than a language but I wanted to go up against the languages on  
> an even basis to see where Flex stacks up.  The results are encouraging:
> 
> 1. How many hits are there on Google:
> Perl:  195MM
> Java: 551MM (Winner)
> Flex: 74MM
> 
> 2. How many jobs have the keyword on Monster.com within 50 miles of  
> Zip code 95110 ( San Jose)
> Perl:  360
> Java: 442 (Winner)
> Flex: 28
> 
> 
> 3. How many searches on the keywords on Overture.com August 2006
> Perl: 12,332
> Java: 192,000 (Winner)
> Flex: 31,964 (Yes - we beat Perl!!!)
> 
> 4. How many searches are returned on Google Blogsearch for the last  
> month only:
> Perl: 531
> Java: 450
> Flex:  596 (Winner)
> 
> 5. How many books on Amazon.com does a keyword search turn up?
> Perl: 13,758
> Java: 38,657
> Flex:  45, 894 (Winner)
> 
> Of course, this is not very scientific given java also means coffee  
> and there are books on Google on Golf Flex.  To me, the number of  
> books and blog mentions is really indicative of a trend just starting  
> to rise.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> D
> 
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> Site - http://www.nickull.net
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> 
> 
> 
> On 10-Oct-06, at 5:51 AM, Ray wrote:
> 
> > Matt,
> >
> > One of the best ways in my opinion to market Flex is by having Flex
> > applications in the wild.
> >
> > As a ColdFusion developer I am excited about the possibilities of
> > using ColdFusion and Flex together. I do however think it would be
> > nice to have a few more CF Flex-centric articles and tutorials
> > available. The CF wizards that are available with Flex Builder are
> > great but they do not quite get me where I want to go. I would like to
> > see an example application that includes security using cflogin. A
> > fully functioning Flex + CF application such as cfpetstore would be
> > nice too.
> >
> > You have a pretty passionate and vocal community of ColdFusion
> > developers. Get us to be as equally vocal and passionate about Flex. I
> > think that would help in marketing Flex a great deal.
> >
> > Ray
> >
> >
> > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Chotin" <mchotin@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a better statement of our marketing plans
> >> and what we're doing currently so you can see that we're not exactly
> >> sitting idle here.  In the meantime, I hear you guys say that none of
> >> your friends tend to hear of Flex, but they know other  
> >> technologies.  So
> >> where do they hear about other technologies?  Are they reading  
> >> certain
> >> publications?  Blogs?  When they talk about other technologies do  
> >> they
> >> actually know what they're talking about or is it just repeating the
> >> buzz?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >> Behalf Of Tariq Ahmed
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:58 PM
> >> To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Marketing
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd agree to that. The marketing effort seems to heavily rely on the
> >> development community doing that job for them. Things like labs and
> >> DevNet are KEY to maximizing technology adoption - but people need to
> >> know about it in the first place.
> >>
> >> To Restate Adobe's Goal: 1 000 000 Flex Developers by 2010.
> >>
> >> Some HEAVY DUTY marketing is needed. It definitely made sense to  
> >> capture
> >> those who are most amiable to Flex (CF and Flash developers) first  
> >> and
> >> grow from there. I think someone blogged about this before; in  
> >> that of
> >> course Adobe related blogs are going to be heavy proponents for Adobe
> >> technologies. But now it's time to penetrate into the rest of the  
> >> world.
> >>
> >> In polling my heavy duty tech friends in other industries, they  
> >> BARELY
> >> know what Flex is. Many haven't heard of it. And some have heard  
> >> of it,
> >> just because they heard me mention it.
> >>
> >> Awareness of the brand and technology needs to be more prevalent.
> >>
> >> Gimme a cool Flex decal and I'll put it on my car! :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Clint Modien wrote:
> >>
> >>    I mentioned this @ the Silicon Valley Flex User Group meeting
> >> the
> >>    other day but I wanted to reiterate it here and see if I could
> >> invoke
> >>    a response from Adobe.
> >>    
> >>    Mr. Mendels?
> >>    
> >>    Where is the marketing for Flex? Why keep the most beautiful
> >>    framework in the world for creating applications a secret? Where
> >> are
> >>    the Visual Studio style banner adds everywhere. Where is the
> >> buzz for
> >>    it on Slashdot. Why arn't other developers in the world standing
> >> up
> >>    and saying is creating applications really this easy!?!
> >>    
> >>    I've seen the lights go on in a developers eyes when they get
> >> it.
> >>    When they see what 5 lines of code can acomplish with Flex. They
> >> get
> >>    excited. Excitement sells licenses.
> >>    
> >>    (Gets off his soapbox and points to it...) ... Thoughts?
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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