Ya if you come from just coding ASP/VBScript those 2 technologies ain't going to help learn OOP, they are really bad for that. Perhaps what you need is a beginners Java class to teach the OOP basics and that will make eveyrthing come to light when using ActionScript. I'm sure you can find something on the net as well... perhaps: http://javadevices.org/javacourses/foundation_module/lectures/lecture1.html Dimitrios Gianninas RIA Developer Optimal Payments Inc.
________________________________ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oneproofdk Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:19 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 - Where to start Thanks for all your great reply's. My prior programming experiences is primarily programming VBscript, for ASP pages and standalone VBscripting. I've been programming VBscript for perhaps 4-5 years now, but never did make the jump to OOP - PHP or .NET at any time before now. (If it works - dont fix it, was my idea) I'm looking at Flex2 to develop new and better UI for my web applications. I am working at a publishing company that makes a magazine 10 times a year. I've made a web application where the magazine is stitched together, using HTML, ASP and javascript (lowend dhtml). It communicates with several database servers, (mysql and MS SQL) pulling data from various sources (MediaBank DAM and MS Dynamics (Navision)) allowing the users to "place" articles and insertions on each page, finally creating the entire magazine in a webbrowser - very cool indeed. Now we are looking to create a web app that has some drag'n'drop features, perhaps even some push technology, so other users will get updated real-time if a page gets content placed. And then ofcourse all the nice UI effects that Flex offers, transitions, zoom, etc. So basicly all the backend stuff, making XML services (propably with ASP though) and database query's is not a problem at all - got that covered for years. I've been through the "Flex2 - Getting started" making all the examples - working and all. Have been "fiddling" around with different properties etc. to see what influences what. I feel pretty comfotable in the Flex2 enviroment. It's the whole classes and OOP that throw's me off. I hate to write code that dont make sense to me or that I dont understand - very frustrating. I live (and work) in Denmark - not sure if there's any local training in Flex2, I dont think so, but I'll investigate today. I'll have alook at roundpeg and Lynda also, to see what they can offer. Think I'll go get a copy of Essential Actionscript 2.0 essential training or similar, as suggested. Thanks for your help and pointers. Best wishes, Mark --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> , "greg h" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark, > > I am glad to see that you are sticking with getting mastery of Flex 2. In > time you will see that it is definately worth the effort :-) > > Following below are "pointers" and links "to a startguide for the true > newbie." > > Before getting to that, I want to echo Danny's post Please do provide us > more detail about what your prior programming, development and design > experience may be. > > Also, please tell us what successes you have had with Flex 2 thus far? For > instance, have you gone through the Lessons in the "Getting Started with > Flex 2" documentation? (Such as "Create Your First Application": > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/00000065.html > <http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/2/docs/00000065.html> ) > > Also, in many cases Flex is the "front end" to complex "back end" computer > architectures. And in most full blown production applications Flex is only > one part in what frequently is at minimum a 3 tier architecture: > 1) Flex UI > 2) Application Server middle tier using Java or PHP or ColdFusion, or .NET, > etc. > 3) Database > > Are you skilled in any application servers or databases? (Each tier is a > specialty unto itself. In team environments, it is not uncommon for > individual developers to work supporting just one tier.) > > Also, what type of applications do you anticipate building? If you let us > know, there may be working sample applications applications that we can > point you to. > > Regarding training, I concur with Simeon's advice. There is a huge > advantage to having a live instructor. You mention that after reading the > docs and the "Training from the Sorce" book your "mind is a bit blown" and > "way out of my league". The benefits of a live instructor is that: a) they > are the living book; and, b) they are dynamic. You can ask questions and > the instructor can summarize the broad and complex body of knowledge in ways > that you you may find easier to grasp. Or, they may be able to provide you > answers even before are able to verbalize the question ;-) > > You can find the list of instructor led courses here: > http://www.adobe.com/support/training/products/flex.html > <http://www.adobe.com/support/training/products/flex.html> > > And you can search for Adobe Authorized Training Centers in your area here: > http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do > <http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do> > > One special note, if you can not travel for training, one Adobe Authorized > Training Partner, roundpeg.com, offers the same courses over the web with > top tier instructors. Watch this link for upcoming dates: > http://www.roundpeg.com/home.cfm?main=training&action=showlocation&Locat\ ionID=37 <http://www.roundpeg.com/home.cfm?main=training&action=showlocation&LocationID=37> > > Beyond books and instructor led, there is some top quality video based > training for Flex 2. > > One option is here: > http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modListing.asp?pid=205 > <http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modListing.asp?pid=205> > Note that there are free samples from each of the titles at the link above. > Also, if you do not already have an account with Lynda.com<http://lynda.com/ <http://lynda.com/> >, > you can get a 1 day free pass here: > http://www.lynda.com/freepass/24 <http://www.lynda.com/freepass/24> > > The second option is DVD based. You can find details here: > http://www.totaltraining.com/prod/adobe/flex2_ria.asp > <http://www.totaltraining.com/prod/adobe/flex2_ria.asp> > > > I find Flex 2 to be very broad. > > > > Also, very > > the posts by the other > > > On 1/4/07, oneproofdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > As a complete newbie to Flash, AS (any kind) and especially Flex - my > > mind is a bit blown away after reading Flex2 documentation for the > > last week or so. > > Just got hold of "Training from the Sorce - Adobe Flex 2" and it's way > > out of my league. > > > > The problem is getting hold of the basic things like AS classes etc. > > to begin to understand the examples etc. For a week I've been making > > examples from the book, basicly type as you flip pages - afterwards - > > still fails to truly understand what just happened. > > > > So.... is there any pointers to a startguide for the true newbie. > > > > Thanks for any help and pointers! > > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > > > > > > -- > > Flexcoders Mailing List > > FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt> > > Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com <http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> > > Yahoo! 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