Adobe needs to have a Book for Flex/Flash sort of like C++ books that teach you
how to program from 0 to 100 and i think university adoption should not be a
problem. Most Flash/Flex books do not even explain namespaces, how many bytes
are int,uint and bitwise operations etc... I had to read a C++ book first to
actually be able to use ActionScript. Also there needs to be scenarios of say
when it is better to use a do while vs a for etc..
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From: Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" <flexcoders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:02:24 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
So we're actually in the middle of rolling some of this out too
:-) In North America today we can offer some posters for you to help recruit
people to an event, we can give you an honorary title of "Adobe Community
Representative" (or something like it) and we can also offer some level of
reimbursement for pizza. If this is something that would interest you, once
again let me know and I'll put you in touch with our marketing folks in charge
of this. We're going to look into trying to formalize this even more, maybe
being able to provide a little more swag or something and an easy way for you
to get materials (and also if we can fund this internationally) .
Matt
On 4/3/08 12:03 PM, "Daniel Freiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
All of the on-campus Microsoft events I remember were official Microsoft
events. Even if it was just an alumn coming back for a visit and deciding to
take the extra hour to talk about their current project, Microsoft would still
give them some official backing. If I visit school and want to talk about flex,
I'm just a guy (that they know) asking for time. I understand that Adobe
probably doesn't want to deputize random developers. But if there was a way to
create an event with explicit Adobe endorsement (I thinking of an endorsement
on the level that users groups get, or even less than that, maybe little more
than just free t-shirts to give out), then it might be easier for alumni
developers to get time and student interest. I'm sure if a marketing inclined
person thought it out, they'd be better able to fully form whatever thought I'm
trying to express.
- Daniel Freiman
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
Hi all,
We definitely hear you. Adobe is definitely interested in making larger impact
in education when it comes to our developer offerings. We just hosted an event
for universities here in San Francisco that had very good attendance.
Additionally we are beginning to reach out to a number of universities to try
to get Flex into the curriculum. Admittedly, we are starting small. We have
targeted about 10-15 places to start, and if we are able to find success there
we will be able to scale this to be a much larger effort. It's not easy, but
we do have dedicated people who are really working on thinking about the best
ways to spread the Flex message into higher ed.
I also encourage folks to strike out on their own. Go back to your alma mater
and talk about Flex. Get interns as Sam mentioned in one of his responses, and
have them take the technology back. We have done everything we can to make
Flex available to students, faculty, and staff (FB Pro is free!) so it's really
about getting folks informed and excited. I'm not sure what kind of experience
Mark had with a Flex Camp, but we really have tried to fund camps all over, and
there's nothing saying that it can't be done at a university.
Feel free to contact me directly if you have an idea for how we can reach out
to education more, and I will put you in touch with the marketing folks who are
running things.
Matt
On 4/3/08 8:33 AM, "matt wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk <mailto:matt%
40thewebforge. co.uk><mailto: matt%40thewebfor ge.co.uk> > wrote:
Adobe (certainly UK) does do campus days and there is considerable interest in
Flex.. They also do on site lectures .. I'm doing a 3 hr session on Flex at
Stafford next week for them -
www.adobe.co. uk/campusdays <http://www.adobe.
co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe. co.uk/campusdays> <http://www.adobe.
co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe. co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.
co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe. co.uk/campusdays>
generally students are pretty keen : unfortunately they have also not any idea
that Flex even exists until we get there
Matt
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Sent: 03 April 2008 09:18
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities towards higher
education worldwide.
This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities) course
offerings to the great extent.
I wish, it comes true.
krishna Raj
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot <rick.winscot@ zyche.com
<mailto:rick. winscot%40zyche. com><mailto: rick.winscot% 40zyche.com> > wrote:
At this pace we won't (generally) see RIA technologies in course offerings for
4 - 5 years at least. It would be awesome to see higher education quicken
their pace and open the door to innovators like Adobe - but the fact is...
that in its current state, higher education, is ill suited to embrace them. To
be frank... I don't blame Adobe for not wanting to participate in the higher
education debacle.
Rick Winscot
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Subject: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!
Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present silverlight& ajax
technologies.
Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to flex, and in my
department (METU computer engineering)
many people use linux; there were quite many people attending to the seminar.
Tomorrow, I'll do give a seminar about AIR technology,which will be hosted by
METU Computer Club.
who am I? Just a 3rd year computer engineering( ~=science) student.
So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes to our lessons for their primitive
technology, but adobe does nothing for flex the great? why?
you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some more local event (no
need to bring your developers, just use
your local partners).
just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of feeling bad with microsoft's
integration efforts...
info : METU = middle east technical university / ankara/ turkey
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