So we're actually in the middle of rolling some of this out too :-)  In North 
America today we can offer some posters for you to help recruit people to an 
event, we can give you an honorary title of "Adobe Community Representative" 
(or something like it) and we can also offer some level of reimbursement for 
pizza.  If this is something that would interest you, once again let me know 
and I'll put you in touch with our marketing folks in charge of this.  We're 
going to look into trying to formalize this even more, maybe being able to 
provide a little more swag or something and an easy way for you to get 
materials (and also if we can fund this internationally).

Matt


On 4/3/08 12:03 PM, "Daniel Freiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




All of the on-campus Microsoft events I remember were official Microsoft 
events.  Even if it was just an alumn coming back for a visit and deciding to 
take the extra hour to talk about their current project, Microsoft would still 
give them some official backing. If I visit school and want to talk about flex, 
I'm just a guy (that they know) asking for time.  I understand that Adobe 
probably doesn't want to deputize random developers.  But if there was a way to 
create an event with explicit Adobe endorsement (I thinking of an endorsement 
on the level that users groups get, or even less than that, maybe little more 
than just free t-shirts to give out), then it might be easier for alumni 
developers to get time and student interest.  I'm sure if a marketing inclined 
person thought it out, they'd be better able to fully form whatever thought I'm 
trying to express.

- Daniel Freiman

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi all,

We definitely hear you.  Adobe is definitely interested in making larger impact 
in education when it comes to our developer offerings.  We just hosted an event 
for universities here in San Francisco that had very good attendance.  
Additionally we are beginning to reach out to a number of universities to try 
to get Flex into the curriculum.  Admittedly, we are starting small.  We have 
targeted about 10-15 places to start, and if we are able to find success there 
we will be able to scale this to be a much larger effort.  It's not easy, but 
we do have dedicated people who are really working on thinking about the best 
ways to spread the Flex message into higher ed.

I also encourage folks to strike out on their own.  Go back to your alma mater 
and talk about Flex.  Get interns as Sam mentioned in one of his responses, and 
have them take the technology back.  We have done everything we can to make 
Flex available to students, faculty, and staff (FB Pro is free!) so it's really 
about getting folks informed and excited.  I'm not sure what kind of experience 
Mark had with a Flex Camp, but we really have tried to fund camps all over, and 
there's nothing saying that it can't be done at a university.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have an idea for how we can reach out 
to education more, and I will put you in touch with the marketing folks who are 
running things.

Matt



On 4/3/08 8:33 AM, "matt wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:matt%40thewebforge.co.uk><mailto:matt%40thewebforge.co.uk> > wrote:

Adobe (certainly UK) does do campus days and there is considerable interest in 
Flex.. They also do on site lectures .. I'm doing a 3 hr session on Flex at 
Stafford next week for them -

www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays 
<http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays>  
<http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays>


generally students are pretty keen : unfortunately they have also not any idea 
that Flex even exists until we get there

Matt

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
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[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
Behalf Of krishna Raj
Sent: 03 April 2008 09:18
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!

There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities towards higher 
education worldwide.
This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities) course 
offerings to the great extent.
I wish, it comes true.
krishna Raj

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:rick.winscot%40zyche.com><mailto:rick.winscot%40zyche.com> > wrote:

At this pace we won't  (generally) see RIA technologies in course offerings for 
4 - 5 years at least.  It would be awesome to see higher education quicken 
their pace and open the  door to innovators like Adobe - but the fact is... 
that in its current state,  higher education, is ill suited to embrace them. To 
be frank... I don't blame  Adobe for not wanting to participate in the higher 
education  debacle.

Rick Winscot

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
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[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] On 
Behalf Of yigit  boyar
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:52 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
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Subject:  [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities!

Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present silverlight&ajax  
technologies.
Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to  flex, and in my 
department (METU computer engineering)
many people use  linux; there were quite many people attending to the seminar.

Tomorrow,  I'll do give a seminar about AIR technology,which will be hosted by 
METU  Computer Club.
 who am I? Just a 3rd year computer  engineering(~=science) student.

So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes  to our lessons for their primitive 
technology, but adobe does nothing for flex  the great? why?
you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some more  local event (no 
need to bring your developers, just use
your local  partners).

just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of feeling  bad with microsoft's 
integration efforts...

info :  METU = middle east technical university / ankara/  turkey





    

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