So we're actually in the middle of rolling some of this out too :-) In North America today we can offer some posters for you to help recruit people to an event, we can give you an honorary title of "Adobe Community Representative" (or something like it) and we can also offer some level of reimbursement for pizza. If this is something that would interest you, once again let me know and I'll put you in touch with our marketing folks in charge of this. We're going to look into trying to formalize this even more, maybe being able to provide a little more swag or something and an easy way for you to get materials (and also if we can fund this internationally).
Matt On 4/3/08 12:03 PM, "Daniel Freiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All of the on-campus Microsoft events I remember were official Microsoft events. Even if it was just an alumn coming back for a visit and deciding to take the extra hour to talk about their current project, Microsoft would still give them some official backing. If I visit school and want to talk about flex, I'm just a guy (that they know) asking for time. I understand that Adobe probably doesn't want to deputize random developers. But if there was a way to create an event with explicit Adobe endorsement (I thinking of an endorsement on the level that users groups get, or even less than that, maybe little more than just free t-shirts to give out), then it might be easier for alumni developers to get time and student interest. I'm sure if a marketing inclined person thought it out, they'd be better able to fully form whatever thought I'm trying to express. - Daniel Freiman On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Matt Chotin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, We definitely hear you. Adobe is definitely interested in making larger impact in education when it comes to our developer offerings. We just hosted an event for universities here in San Francisco that had very good attendance. Additionally we are beginning to reach out to a number of universities to try to get Flex into the curriculum. Admittedly, we are starting small. We have targeted about 10-15 places to start, and if we are able to find success there we will be able to scale this to be a much larger effort. It's not easy, but we do have dedicated people who are really working on thinking about the best ways to spread the Flex message into higher ed. I also encourage folks to strike out on their own. Go back to your alma mater and talk about Flex. Get interns as Sam mentioned in one of his responses, and have them take the technology back. We have done everything we can to make Flex available to students, faculty, and staff (FB Pro is free!) so it's really about getting folks informed and excited. I'm not sure what kind of experience Mark had with a Flex Camp, but we really have tried to fund camps all over, and there's nothing saying that it can't be done at a university. Feel free to contact me directly if you have an idea for how we can reach out to education more, and I will put you in touch with the marketing folks who are running things. Matt On 4/3/08 8:33 AM, "matt wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:matt%40thewebforge.co.uk><mailto:matt%40thewebforge.co.uk> > wrote: Adobe (certainly UK) does do campus days and there is considerable interest in Flex.. They also do on site lectures .. I'm doing a 3 hr session on Flex at Stafford next week for them - www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays <http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays> <http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays><http://www.adobe.co.uk/campusdays> generally students are pretty keen : unfortunately they have also not any idea that Flex even exists until we get there Matt ________________________________ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of krishna Raj Sent: 03 April 2008 09:18 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities! There is lot of scope for Adobe Technologies in Universities towards higher education worldwide. This idea can further their technologies for their(Universities) course offerings to the great extent. I wish, it comes true. krishna Raj On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Rick Winscot <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:rick.winscot%40zyche.com><mailto:rick.winscot%40zyche.com> > wrote: At this pace we won't (generally) see RIA technologies in course offerings for 4 - 5 years at least. It would be awesome to see higher education quicken their pace and open the door to innovators like Adobe - but the fact is... that in its current state, higher education, is ill suited to embrace them. To be frank... I don't blame Adobe for not wanting to participate in the higher education debacle. Rick Winscot From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of yigit boyar Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:52 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com <mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [flexcoders] Where is adobe? Come to universities! Yesterday, Microsoft was in my department to present silverlight&ajax technologies. Although silverlight is currently a bullshit compared to flex, and in my department (METU computer engineering) many people use linux; there were quite many people attending to the seminar. Tomorrow, I'll do give a seminar about AIR technology,which will be hosted by METU Computer Club. who am I? Just a 3rd year computer engineering(~=science) student. So i ask to adobe; microsoft comes to our lessons for their primitive technology, but adobe does nothing for flex the great? why? you do europe tour, it's great but you better do some more local event (no need to bring your developers, just use your local partners). just a suggestion to adobe guys, maybe because of feeling bad with microsoft's integration efforts... info : METU = middle east technical university / ankara/ turkey