Rob, I'm thinking that we may very well already have what you are looking for. Please check out the Secondary settings on the Setup Form -> DSP Tab -> Keyer Sub Tab. There is a setting for CAT. This would use the same COM port as the CAT setup.
I just tested this with MixW and it works great. Note that you have to tell MixW to Key CW with CAT, but after that, it works just great. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Rob Dennison > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger > > Hi Bob, > > Well you know, I down loaded the PDF version of the CAT Command > Dictionary on September 16, 2007 and it doesn't have the commands. I > down loaded the Word version on September 27, 2007 and it does have them. > Betcha the PDF should be updated. Of course I looked at the PDF version > thinking they would be the same. > > Guess I'll have to install Tortoise to get current documentation. Only > way to keep documentation up to date is to release alpha docs with alpha > code and so on... terrible, terrible thing to have to do... > > It still seems implementing a vCOM ASCII interface to CWX would interface > with more CAT programs with less hassle than using KS and KY.. > > Anyway I'm just super glad such an obvious solution has been implemented. > Now flexRadio gets a break while I go converse with N1MM. > > Thanks for the info. > > 73's > Rob > AB7CF > > BTW, I just looked at the Kenwood TS 2000 manual and it doesn't list a KW > command. R... > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:28:01 -0600 "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Rob, > > > > Your CAT Dictionary is a few revisions behind, the latest is October > > 31, > > 2007. The KY and KS commands were added on August 25, 2007. In > > the > > downloads section of the Flex web site, the CAT Dictionary and > > Cross-Reference are one revision behind the current ones, but is's > > only been > > about a week since the lastest revs were posted. > > > > The Kenwood KY/KS and Flex ZZKY/ZZKS are implemented in PowerSDR. > > I'm not > > sure about the KW command, it doesn't appear in my Kenwood docs. > > The > > solution does work with DXLabs Commander and WinWarbler as they were > > the > > programs (requested by a user) that spurred the addition of the > > Kenwood > > commands. > > > > If you want the latest docs, and you have TortoiseSVN loaded, you > > can > > download the documents directly from: > > > > > svn://206.216.146.154/svn/repos_sdr_windows/PowerSDR/trunk/Documentation > > > > 73, > > > > Bob K5KDN > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Dennison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:29 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > For what it's worth, neither the KW or KY commands are listed in > > the > > latest flexRadio Cat Command Dictionary I've been able to find in > > the > > knowledge base (Revised January 3, 2006.) > > > > Of course my suggestion is that flexRadio implement a simple ascii > > port > > or the KW/KY commands or a ZZ equivalent and similarly N1MM > > implement > > them as well. > > > > No use pushing on N1MM until flexRadio is in motion. Of course > > this > > simple solution would work with DXLabs and other CAT programs... > > > > Sure would beat the competition (except Kenwood.) > > > > 73's > > Rob > > AB7CF > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:29:59 -0600 "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > Brian, > > > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "send CW and work as the CAT data". > > > The port > > > is not sending CW, the CW is generated by the internal keyer in > > the > > > radio. > > > The KW command has a 24 byte ascii command string that represents > > > what you > > > want to send: KY now is the time for all good....; comes in the > > > port > > > assigned to CAT and is routed to the CWX CW module for > > translation > > > to the > > > dits and dahs to send. > > > > > > I have been unable to find a way to do this in N1MM (and I'm the > > > last person > > > to claim expertise with it) please let me know so I can test it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bob K5KDN > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Brian Kassel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:19 AM > > > To: Bob Tracy > > > Cc: Rob Dennison; flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger > > > > > > > > > Bob and Rob: > > > > > > Is the Kenwood KY command the command that allows a single com > > > port to > > > send CW *AND* work as the CAT data? If so, N1MM Logger does > > indeed > > > support that mode. I have used it on my K-2 for many moons. > > So, > > > if I > > > set up N1MM Logger to use a single serial port, what would have > > to > > > be > > > done in the setup in Power SDR for this to work as described? > > > > > > Brian K7RE > > > Bob Tracy wrote: > > > > > > >See the Kenwood KY command in the CAT Dictionary. This is > > > precisely what > > > it > > > >does, however, I don't believe N1MM implements KY. > > > > > > > >73, > > > > > > > >Bob K5KDN > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob > > Dennison > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:34 AM > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Brian and all, > > > > > > > >Correct me if I'm wrong, but does not a program such as N1MM > > send > > > a > > > >character string through a COM or USB port to an external keyer > > > which > > > >then converts it to a string of opens and grounds which are then > > > fed back > > > >into PowerSDR via a real COM port and hence to PowerSDR? > > > > > > > >If so, why not make a minor mode to CWX so it can receive a > > string > > > of > > > >ACII from an external program say via vCOM as well as via a > > > keyboard? > > > > > > > >Simplicity is the soul of elegance. > > > > > > > >Why should I be required to spend yet another $70 for a WinKey > > kit > > > and > > > >build it up in my shop to fix what is basically a specification > > bug > > > in > > > >PowerSDR? > > > > > > > >73's > > > >Rob > > > >AB7CF > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:00:13 -0700 Brian Kassel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Hi Army: > > > >> > > > >> QSL, Thanks for your input. I also am aware of how difficult > > > it > > > >>is > > > >>for a PC to generate good CW when in a multi-tasking > > > environment. > > > >>I > > > >>won't be using a MicroHam Microkeyer however. I can figure out > > > out > > > >>the > > > >>serial port interface from N1MM Logger to the serial input of > > the > > > >>WinKey, but I wonder where would I hook up the CW output of the > > > >>WinKey > > > >>into the SDR-1000? Do I simply use the CW in put jack on the > > box > > > >>itself? I read where the preferred CW input to the SDR is on > > > the > > > >>serial port, but the serial port will be used for the CAT > > > functions > > > >>on > > > >>the SDR. Perhaps it is possible for the CW output of the > > Winkey > > > to > > > >>key > > > >>the radio through a transistor switch, whose output goes to the > > > DTR > > > >>or > > > >>RTS pin the the CAT serial port? Maybe someone on the list can > > > give > > > >> > > > >>some input to this idea? I am sure someone out there has done > > > this, > > > >>or > > > >>something similar. I am using VCOM as well. > > > >> > > > >>Brian K7RE > > > >> > > > >>Army Curtis - AE5P wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Brian, > > > >>> > > > >>>I used the Winkey keyer in a MicroHam Micokeyer this weekend, > > > but > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>from N3FJP > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>logger rather than N1MM. It worked perfectly with no timing > > > issues > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>at all. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>It is very difficult for any program to generate perfect code > > > when > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>you are > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>sharing resources with something like PowerSDR. The Winkey > > keyer > > > is > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>a very > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>good solution to the problem, and it worked great for me. I > > have > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>ordered the > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Winkey kit for use with my new Flex 5000 so I don't have to > > > kluge > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>up > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>something like I did this past weekend to use the MicroHam > > unit. > > > >>> > > > >>>Hope this helps. > > > >>> > > > >>>73, > > > >>>Army - AE5P > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>-----Original Message----- > > > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>Kassel > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:05 PM > > > >>>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > > >>>Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger > > > >>> > > > >>>Folks: > > > >>> > > > >>> Has anyone out there successfully configured the above > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>combination? I > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>had very serious timing issues this last weekend in the ARRL > > SS > > > CW. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> I > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>was using the internal keyer that is included in N1MM Logger. > > > I > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>am > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>thinking that most of the timing issues could be circumvented > > by > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>using > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>the Winkey keyer driven by N1MM Logger. > > > >>> > > > >>> I did look through the Knowledge Base and set up everything > > as > > > >>>recommended. The problem does not seem to occur with the > > keyer > > > in > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>Power > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>SDR, only when CW is sent in a buffer from the N1MM Logger. > > No > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>glitches > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>were found in Power SDR, so I have to think that the Keyer > > > timing > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>in > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>N1MM Logger while running with POwer SDR is the issue. > > > >>> > > > >>>Brian K7RE > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>-- > > > >>"age, crankiness & treachery will overcome youth energy & > > skill" > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>FlexRadio mailing list > > > >>FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > >>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > >>Archive Link: > > > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > >>FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > > > >>FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >FlexRadio mailing list > > > >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > > > > >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > >Archive Link: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > > >FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > > > >FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "age, crankiness & treachery will overcome youth energy & skill" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ > FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ _______________________________________________ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
