So Eric: What you mean is the following set-up in Power SDR then: In Setup DSP Keyer
Set: Primary SDR Secondary CAT PTT Line RTS Key Line DTR Brian K7RE Eric Wachsmann wrote: >Rob, > >I'm thinking that we may very well already have what you are looking for. >Please check out the Secondary settings on the Setup Form -> DSP Tab -> >Keyer Sub Tab. There is a setting for CAT. This would use the same COM >port as the CAT setup. > >I just tested this with MixW and it works great. Note that you have to tell >MixW to Key CW with CAT, but after that, it works just great. > > >Eric Wachsmann >FlexRadio Systems > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>radio.biz] On Behalf Of Rob Dennison >>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:03 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger >> >>Hi Bob, >> >>Well you know, I down loaded the PDF version of the CAT Command >>Dictionary on September 16, 2007 and it doesn't have the commands. I >>down loaded the Word version on September 27, 2007 and it does have them. >> Betcha the PDF should be updated. Of course I looked at the PDF version >>thinking they would be the same. >> >>Guess I'll have to install Tortoise to get current documentation. Only >>way to keep documentation up to date is to release alpha docs with alpha >>code and so on... terrible, terrible thing to have to do... >> >>It still seems implementing a vCOM ASCII interface to CWX would interface >>with more CAT programs with less hassle than using KS and KY.. >> >>Anyway I'm just super glad such an obvious solution has been implemented. >> Now flexRadio gets a break while I go converse with N1MM. >> >>Thanks for the info. >> >>73's >>Rob >>AB7CF >> >>BTW, I just looked at the Kenwood TS 2000 manual and it doesn't list a KW >>command. R... >> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:28:01 -0600 "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>writes: >> >> >>>Rob, >>> >>>Your CAT Dictionary is a few revisions behind, the latest is October >>>31, >>>2007. The KY and KS commands were added on August 25, 2007. In >>>the >>>downloads section of the Flex web site, the CAT Dictionary and >>>Cross-Reference are one revision behind the current ones, but is's >>>only been >>>about a week since the lastest revs were posted. >>> >>>The Kenwood KY/KS and Flex ZZKY/ZZKS are implemented in PowerSDR. >>>I'm not >>>sure about the KW command, it doesn't appear in my Kenwood docs. >>>The >>>solution does work with DXLabs Commander and WinWarbler as they were >>>the >>>programs (requested by a user) that spurred the addition of the >>>Kenwood >>>commands. >>> >>>If you want the latest docs, and you have TortoiseSVN loaded, you >>>can >>>download the documents directly from: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>svn://206.216.146.154/svn/repos_sdr_windows/PowerSDR/trunk/Documentation >> >> >>>73, >>> >>>Bob K5KDN >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rob Dennison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:29 AM >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger >>> >>> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>For what it's worth, neither the KW or KY commands are listed in >>>the >>>latest flexRadio Cat Command Dictionary I've been able to find in >>>the >>>knowledge base (Revised January 3, 2006.) >>> >>>Of course my suggestion is that flexRadio implement a simple ascii >>>port >>>or the KW/KY commands or a ZZ equivalent and similarly N1MM >>>implement >>>them as well. >>> >>>No use pushing on N1MM until flexRadio is in motion. Of course >>>this >>>simple solution would work with DXLabs and other CAT programs... >>> >>>Sure would beat the competition (except Kenwood.) >>> >>>73's >>>Rob >>>AB7CF >>> >>> >>>On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:29:59 -0600 "Bob Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>writes: >>> >>> >>>>Brian, >>>> >>>>I'm not sure what you mean by "send CW and work as the CAT data". >>>>The port >>>>is not sending CW, the CW is generated by the internal keyer in >>>> >>>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>radio. >>>>The KW command has a 24 byte ascii command string that represents >>>>what you >>>>want to send: KY now is the time for all good....; comes in the >>>>port >>>>assigned to CAT and is routed to the CWX CW module for >>>> >>>> >>>translation >>> >>> >>>>to the >>>>dits and dahs to send. >>>> >>>>I have been unable to find a way to do this in N1MM (and I'm the >>>>last person >>>>to claim expertise with it) please let me know so I can test it. >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>> >>>>Bob K5KDN >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Brian Kassel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:19 AM >>>>To: Bob Tracy >>>>Cc: Rob Dennison; flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger >>>> >>>> >>>>Bob and Rob: >>>> >>>> Is the Kenwood KY command the command that allows a single com >>>>port to >>>>send CW *AND* work as the CAT data? If so, N1MM Logger does >>>> >>>> >>>indeed >>> >>> >>>>support that mode. I have used it on my K-2 for many moons. >>>> >>>> >>>So, >>> >>> >>>>if I >>>>set up N1MM Logger to use a single serial port, what would have >>>> >>>> >>>to >>> >>> >>>>be >>>>done in the setup in Power SDR for this to work as described? >>>> >>>>Brian K7RE >>>>Bob Tracy wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>See the Kenwood KY command in the CAT Dictionary. This is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>precisely what >>>>it >>>> >>>> >>>>>does, however, I don't believe N1MM implements KY. >>>>> >>>>>73, >>>>> >>>>>Bob K5KDN >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>Dennison >>> >>> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:34 AM >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>>>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Hi Brian and all, >>>>> >>>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but does not a program such as N1MM >>>>> >>>>> >>>send >>> >>> >>>>a >>>> >>>> >>>>>character string through a COM or USB port to an external keyer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>which >>>> >>>> >>>>>then converts it to a string of opens and grounds which are then >>>>> >>>>> >>>>fed back >>>> >>>> >>>>>into PowerSDR via a real COM port and hence to PowerSDR? >>>>> >>>>>If so, why not make a minor mode to CWX so it can receive a >>>>> >>>>> >>>string >>> >>> >>>>of >>>> >>>> >>>>>ACII from an external program say via vCOM as well as via a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>keyboard? >>>> >>>> >>>>>Simplicity is the soul of elegance. >>>>> >>>>>Why should I be required to spend yet another $70 for a WinKey >>>>> >>>>> >>>kit >>> >>> >>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>build it up in my shop to fix what is basically a specification >>>>> >>>>> >>>bug >>> >>> >>>>in >>>> >>>> >>>>>PowerSDR? >>>>> >>>>>73's >>>>>Rob >>>>>AB7CF >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:00:13 -0700 Brian Kassel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Army: >>>>>> >>>>>> QSL, Thanks for your input. I also am aware of how difficult >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>it >>>> >>>> >>>>>>is >>>>>>for a PC to generate good CW when in a multi-tasking >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>environment. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I >>>>>>won't be using a MicroHam Microkeyer however. I can figure out >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>out >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the >>>>>>serial port interface from N1MM Logger to the serial input of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>>>WinKey, but I wonder where would I hook up the CW output of the >>>>>>WinKey >>>>>>into the SDR-1000? Do I simply use the CW in put jack on the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>box >>> >>> >>>>>>itself? I read where the preferred CW input to the SDR is on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>serial port, but the serial port will be used for the CAT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>functions >>>> >>>> >>>>>>on >>>>>>the SDR. Perhaps it is possible for the CW output of the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Winkey >>> >>> >>>>to >>>> >>>> >>>>>>key >>>>>>the radio through a transistor switch, whose output goes to the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>DTR >>>> >>>> >>>>>>or >>>>>>RTS pin the the CAT serial port? Maybe someone on the list can >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>give >>>> >>>> >>>>>>some input to this idea? I am sure someone out there has done >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>this, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>or >>>>>>something similar. I am using VCOM as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>Brian K7RE >>>>>> >>>>>>Army Curtis - AE5P wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Brian, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I used the Winkey keyer in a MicroHam Micokeyer this weekend, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>but >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>from N3FJP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>logger rather than N1MM. It worked perfectly with no timing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>issues >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>It is very difficult for any program to generate perfect code >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>when >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>you are >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>sharing resources with something like PowerSDR. The Winkey >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>keyer >>> >>> >>>>is >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>a very >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>good solution to the problem, and it worked great for me. I >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>have >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>ordered the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Winkey kit for use with my new Flex 5000 so I don't have to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>kluge >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>up >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>something like I did this past weekend to use the MicroHam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>unit. >>> >>> >>>>>>>Hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>73, >>>>>>>Army - AE5P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Kassel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:05 PM >>>>>>>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>>>>>>Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-1000 and Winkey with N1MM Logger >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Folks: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Has anyone out there successfully configured the above >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>combination? I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>had very serious timing issues this last weekend in the ARRL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>SS >>> >>> >>>>CW. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>I >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>was using the internal keyer that is included in N1MM Logger. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>I >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>am >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>thinking that most of the timing issues could be circumvented >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>by >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>using >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>the Winkey keyer driven by N1MM Logger. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did look through the Knowledge Base and set up everything >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>as >>> >>> >>>>>>>recommended. The problem does not seem to occur with the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>keyer >>> >>> >>>>in >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>Power >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>SDR, only when CW is sent in a buffer from the N1MM Logger. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>No >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>glitches >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>were found in Power SDR, so I have to think that the Keyer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>timing >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>N1MM Logger while running with POwer SDR is the issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Brian K7RE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>"age, crankiness & treachery will overcome youth energy & >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>skill" >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>FlexRadio mailing list >>>>>>FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Archive Link: >>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >>>>>>FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ >>>>>>FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>FlexRadio mailing list >>>>>FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>>> >>>> >>>>>Archive Link: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >>>> >>>> >>>>>FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ >>>>>FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>"age, crankiness & treachery will overcome youth energy & skill" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>FlexRadio mailing list >>FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >>FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ >>FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ >> >> > > > > > > -- "age, crankiness & treachery will overcome youth energy & skill" _______________________________________________ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
