Thanks for the info, Tim.

Maybe I am being too conservative with the -3 dB on the ALC, but I do not want 
to put out some of the "garbage" that I sometimes see when listening to JT-65 
signals. A setting on the VAC TX gain of -1 dB would not put out anything close 
to 100 watts on my rigs, so apparently it a characteristic of JT65-HF. I have 
copied Joe Large, developer of the program, for some input (no pun intended!).

Ed, K0KC




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From: Tim Ellison <t.m.ellison...@gmail.com>
To: flexra...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ed Wilson <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net>; 
"Flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <Flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF


Your PA is fine.

The amount of drive is dependent on the AF gain being fed from the
      digital mode program.  If it is not putting out 0 dB, then a VAC
      TX gain setting of 0 dB will not produce very near 100 watts PEP
      with a tone.

You ALWAYS want to use DIGx modes for digital mode operation
      because it bypasses all of the voice signal processing (EQ,
      compander, leveler) that can adversely effect the AF generated by
      the digital mode program.

You also NEVER want to exceed 0 dB on ALC, as this is "clipping"
      the DSP and that is never good for digital modes.  I never exceed
      -1 dB to allow for some headroom.  With Fldigi, I get 90W out on
      PSK31 with the VAC TX Gain = 0

 
Tim Ellison
On 10/20/2011 3:27 PM, Ed Wilson wrote: 
  
>Dave,
>
>I can get 100 watts out in the tune mode (and CW when I
              use that mode).
>
>Ed, K0KC
>
>________________________________
>From: Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net>
>To: 'Ed Wilson' <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; 
>flexra...@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:48 PM
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF
>
>Ed
> 
>When I get a chance later today I’ll see the max power I
              can get out of JT65  alc -3 drive slider 100 into a dummy
              load.
> 
>Have you tested your max power out hitting “TUN” and
              running Drive to 100 ? Maybe your overall output power is
              low.
> 
>Dave
> 
>From:Ed Wilson [mailto:ed.wil...@ymail.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:39 AM
>To: Dave Beumer WØDHB; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF
> 
>Dave,
> 
>Thanks for the hints.
> 
>First of all, the dummy load does not make any difference
              compared to the antenna since the VSWR is essentially 1:1
              with the antenna.
> 
>I did try PSK31 using DM780 and I was able to obtain about
              50 watts output with the ALC reading -3 dB...I believe
              that I moved the slider up to -3 to obtain this reading.
> 
>My transmit filter is 0 to 3K, so I do not think that
              should be a problem.
> 
>Ed, K0KC
> 
>
>________________________________
>
>From:Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net>
>To: 'Ed Wilson' <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; 
>flexra...@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:23 PM
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF
>
>Ed
>
>Have you tried to get higher power with other digital
              modes ?
>
>I can get 60+  watts out on PSK with Drive at 100, ALC
              level of -3 with
>level slider -1 .
>
>Are you certain your xmit filter is not attenuating the
              output.. have you
>tested with a dummy load ?
>
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
>[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Wilson
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:50 AM
>To: Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF
>
>Colleagues,
>
>I have been running JT65A using the JT65-HF software for
              the past month or
>so with good results (several hundred contacts with at
              least half DX). I
>have a Flex-5000 and I am running PowerSDR 2.2.3 under
              Windows 7/32. I have
>set my Drive control to 100 and have adjusted the VAC TX
              gain for an ALC
>reading of -3 dB (-6 on the slider control). With these
              settings I get from
>25 to 30 watts out, depending upon the band. This power
              output is adequate
>for JT-65A, but what if I wanted to run more power? The
              only way that I can
>get my power output into the 100 watt range is to do so by
              increasing the
>VAC TX gain to a value of at least 0 and then the ALC is
              up to +3 dB, which
>probably would create splatter all over the slice of
              spectrum set aside for
>JT65A.
>
>Also, any other suggestions for DSP or other settings that
              would optimize
>J65A operation with PowerSDR would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ed, K0KC
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