Thanks for the info, Tim. Maybe I am being too conservative with the -3 dB on the ALC, but I do not want to put out some of the "garbage" that I sometimes see when listening to JT-65 signals. A setting on the VAC TX gain of -1 dB would not put out anything close to 100 watts on my rigs, so apparently it a characteristic of JT65-HF. I have copied Joe Large, developer of the program, for some input (no pun intended!).
Ed, K0KC ________________________________ From: Tim Ellison <t.m.ellison...@gmail.com> To: flexra...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Ed Wilson <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net>; "Flexradio@flex-radio.biz" <Flexradio@flex-radio.biz> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF Your PA is fine. The amount of drive is dependent on the AF gain being fed from the digital mode program. If it is not putting out 0 dB, then a VAC TX gain setting of 0 dB will not produce very near 100 watts PEP with a tone. You ALWAYS want to use DIGx modes for digital mode operation because it bypasses all of the voice signal processing (EQ, compander, leveler) that can adversely effect the AF generated by the digital mode program. You also NEVER want to exceed 0 dB on ALC, as this is "clipping" the DSP and that is never good for digital modes. I never exceed -1 dB to allow for some headroom. With Fldigi, I get 90W out on PSK31 with the VAC TX Gain = 0 Tim Ellison On 10/20/2011 3:27 PM, Ed Wilson wrote: >Dave, > >I can get 100 watts out in the tune mode (and CW when I use that mode). > >Ed, K0KC > >________________________________ >From: Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net> >To: 'Ed Wilson' <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; >flexra...@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:48 PM >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF > >Ed > >When I get a chance later today I’ll see the max power I can get out of JT65 alc -3 drive slider 100 into a dummy load. > >Have you tested your max power out hitting “TUN” and running Drive to 100 ? Maybe your overall output power is low. > >Dave > >From:Ed Wilson [mailto:ed.wil...@ymail.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:39 AM >To: Dave Beumer WØDHB; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF > >Dave, > >Thanks for the hints. > >First of all, the dummy load does not make any difference compared to the antenna since the VSWR is essentially 1:1 with the antenna. > >I did try PSK31 using DM780 and I was able to obtain about 50 watts output with the ALC reading -3 dB...I believe that I moved the slider up to -3 to obtain this reading. > >My transmit filter is 0 to 3K, so I do not think that should be a problem. > >Ed, K0KC > > >________________________________ > >From:Dave Beumer WØDHB <d...@w0dhb.net> >To: 'Ed Wilson' <ed.wil...@ymail.com>; Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; >flexra...@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:23 PM >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF > >Ed > >Have you tried to get higher power with other digital modes ? > >I can get 60+ watts out on PSK with Drive at 100, ALC level of -3 with >level slider -1 . > >Are you certain your xmit filter is not attenuating the output.. have you >tested with a dummy load ? > >Dave > >-----Original Message----- >From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz >[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Wilson >Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:50 AM >To: Flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Flexradio] VAC and JT65-HF > >Colleagues, > >I have been running JT65A using the JT65-HF software for the past month or >so with good results (several hundred contacts with at least half DX). I >have a Flex-5000 and I am running PowerSDR 2.2.3 under Windows 7/32. I have >set my Drive control to 100 and have adjusted the VAC TX gain for an ALC >reading of -3 dB (-6 on the slider control). With these settings I get from >25 to 30 watts out, depending upon the band. This power output is adequate >for JT-65A, but what if I wanted to run more power? The only way that I can >get my power output into the 100 watt range is to do so by increasing the >VAC TX gain to a value of at least 0 and then the ALC is up to +3 dB, which >probably would create splatter all over the slice of spectrum set aside for >JT65A. > >Also, any other suggestions for DSP or other settings that would optimize >J65A operation with PowerSDR would be appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Ed, K0KC >_______________________________________________ >FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ >Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: >http://www.flexradio.com/ > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >__._,_.___ >Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic >Messages in this topic (6) >Recent Activity: * New Members 6 >Visit Your Group >-------- >Any and all comments and opinions stated here are those of the individual user and not FlexRadio Systems >MARKETPLACE >Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get >the Yahoo! 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