The 5000 is a great radio and will continue to be for years in the future (I
own one myself). PowerSDR will be maintained and upgraded as well, if
nothing else because the 1500 and 3000 use it and they are extremely good
sellers for Flex. I have ordered a 6700 but will continue to keep the 5000
as it works wonderfully well. Who knows, I may not like the 6700 or feel it
is more radio than I need and I could sell it and revert back to the 5000
and use it for years in the future. I don’t ever see myself using a radio
without the display capabilities of PowerSDR. Jim K4JAF
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Norris
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:02 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [Flex radio] Newbie Follow-up
I agree with John's analysis and had hoped that a 5500 would be in the mix
but I think not. I have a completely tricked out 5000 that works great with
the latest PowerSDR.
I also understand why the company went in the direction of self-contained
computing power. Not having to fuss with whatever flavor PC a customer uses
definitely helps their support and getting away from being dependent on the
Firewire comm link stops all the version, chip incompatibilities. Flex
mentions virtualization technology in their product write-ups which is the
way most businesses are going to achieve the max from their computing
systems. Also, using a socket driven, 1 Gbit Ethernet link helps with the
PC interface and is a natural progression to the network enabled radio
system Flex envisions. Therein lies a potential resource for user
customization as the socket is nothing more than a data source. Hopefully
the data protocol will be released by Flex to allow for users to create
their own displays if they have resources and knowledge. And yes, I realize
that it is a two way comm and you don't want users sending "bad" commands to
the 6000 series. Just something for the good folks at Flex to consider.
Don
N1KGK
-----Original Message-----
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of John
Kramer
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:52 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [Flex radio] Newbie Follow-up
Bret
Let me first make it clear that I have been an avid fan of the Flex product
- don't believe me ? look at my QRZ.COM page. I have also converted more
than 20 people from conventional radio's to owning Flex radio's.
I flew halfway around the world to attend the Orlando hamvention in February
this year, one reason being so that I could see what all the fuss was about
with the new Flex 6000 series radio's. Tim demonstrated smartSDR to me with
the
6000 series radio in great detail. I am saying this so you know I am not on
a troll here, but I have seen the new radio in operation.
I prefer the PowerSDR concept radio's. I would have liked it if Flex built
on from this model and enhanced it. There are a number of enhancements that
I would have liked to have seen in the 5000, which I won't detail here.
I prefer this concept, where you can continually upgrade your computer
without having to change the radio. With the 6000 series the computer is
built into the radio. Of course, in order for the Flex-5000/5500 to keep up
with faster computers, the enhanced
5500 would need better data transfer than firewire 400. I would like to see
a 5500 come out with support for Firewire 800 and also Thunderbolt (12 times
faster).
This is a personal preference. I cannot ever see the need for 4 or 8 or 100
slices of the spectrum. The most I will ever use is 2. I know that smartSDR
is in its infancy, but I hate the GUI. No waterfall ? The waterfall was one
thing that sold me on Flex products - I don't want my display to be clogged
up with "slices" that I wouldn't use. I would prefer to have my display
showing the slice I am on in GREAT detail with waterfall aka PowerSDR.
$ 200.00 a year to subscribe to SmartSDR..really ?
I was not saying they should continue producing the 5000 forever. I never
said that.
What I am saying is that they should continue enhancing that PowerSDR
concept.
ie. a Flex-5500. I don't like the SmartSDR concept. I hate the GUI. I prefer
having all the buttons I need on the display - mode change, volume change,
band change etc etc.
I am also NOT saying that the 6000 series is a bad idea - clearly there are
lots of customers waiting to purchase it. All I wanted to see, was for the
PowerSDR hardware to continue being enhanced
Because it appears that the hardware for PowerSDR will not be enhanced..I
will be moving onto the Kenwood TS-990S. But I will still keep my Flex-5000,
nice radio..maybe sell my Flex-3000 and Flex-1500.
73
John, ZS5J
On 18 May 2013, at 9:17 PM, Bret Mills <bret.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
John, What you say doesn't make since to me.
Do you think that Kenwood still sell's the TS850?, How about Yaesu, do
they still sell the FT-1000?
Do you think Kenwood will sell the TS-990S for ever or will they
discontinue it's production when there new model comes out?
What about Ford motor company, do they still make the model T?
What makes Flex different then any other manufacture in the world when
a new model comes out of ANY product you buy?
If all this was the case I would think the whole WORLD's economy would
grind to a stop.
Flex hasn't said a word about this and I would NOT think that they
will not discontinue SUPPORT for the Flex 5000 for Many more years,
they still support repair of the Flex1000 after all.
73's and this is not a flame but rather just some questions.
Bret
WX7Y
-----Original Message-----
From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of
John Kramer
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:24 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [Flex radio] Newbie Follow-up
In my opinion this is a seriously bad move by Flex, if it is true. Not
everyone is interested in the 6000 series.
I love my Flex-5000, Flex-3000 and Flex-1500, but if they are going to
receive little or no support due to the 6000 getting the limelight,
then my next move will NOT be to the Flex-6000 but to a new Kenwood
TS-990S
73
John, ZS5J
On 18 May 2013, at 5:02 PM, Jim Jannuzzo <jsqu...@msn.com> wrote:
Discontinuing the 5000 makes a lot of sense. The 6500 has an ATU,
Four
slice receivers, and the best available hardware and software for $4,300.
The 5000 with an ATU and second RX was about $3,500, IIRC. With a
price point that close on two top-end radios, it's better to get the
customer
base and (especially) support resources into the 6500 - 6700.
But that's a heck of a way to announce a change in plans for the 5000.
Jim KJ2P
Don,
I have been with all the Flex people today for over an hour at the
Dayton Himation today.
I can assure you that there are no more 5000's. Not going to make
ANY more. They will be keeping the 1500 and 3000. That is factual
and you can take it to the bank.
Good success.
Matthew-KJ4TN
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