Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> I'm pretty sure we're seeing the same behavior here, actually.  I'll

With Dave's change to prefrences.xml I can get up to FL320 before running into
trouble.  Really tried to go higher...no luck.

> take a look at the reduction in climb performance, but I'm pretty sure
> you're just being fooled by the slower speed (once you drop below 260
> knots or so, it takes a *long* time to get back to 300, even if you
> dive).

No, I don't think so and yes I know.  But haven't had a chance to verify this
with the latest changes.

> Here's my plan for testing 747 climb:
> 
> 1.) Set autopilot to runway heading before takeoff, then disengage
>     with ^H.  Verify that all trim controls are zero.
> 2.) Throttle up.
> 3.) Rotate at 190 knots.  Gear up.  Engage autopilot heading mode.
> 4.) Hold the nose at 15° until the aircraft reaches 250 kias.
> 5.) Hand fly the aircraft at 250 knots until 10k feet.
> 6.) Reduce back pressure on the yoke as the aircraft accelerates to
>     300-310 knots.  Trim up very (!) slightly to hold this speed.
>     Use very small movements of the stick to damp the phugoid.

I flew this exact protocol in the last test.  BTW I might have mentioned 
before, but wasn't clear that when I do use the autopilot I'm tweaking the
config at various flight levels with the property picker (/autopilot/config).
 Unfortunately the autopilot's "min climb speed" setting doesn't work quite
right, so you have to watch the ias.  Anyway this is a lot different than just
entering an elevation like we do with the cessnas.

In any case, flying very carefully I can barely get it up to FL320 with the
change in preferences.xml.  Going further just doesn't seem possible.  I tried
serveral AoAs and just couldn't get it to go up much without falling back.

Best,

Jim


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