Thanks for that Martin, I'd never seen OpenRadar before. Been dabbling in Java 
recently (the lazy mans attempt at CrossPlatform ;) ) might be something to 
have a tinker with! 

Thanks again. 

Alex 
On 22 Jun 2010, at 09:36, Martin Spott wrote:

> Peter Morgan wrote:
> 
>> although there are a few "atc" client around such as
>> 1) ATC
>> 2) ATC2
>> 3) ATCML - fav
> 
> I don't know any of these.
> 
>> so is there a way to create an "ATC client" without FG ?
> 
> Depends on what you're looking for - "ATC client" is a very vague
> description. There's something like a standalone RADAR screen which
> connects to MP servers. I don't have a current screenshot, so feel free
> to look at these old ones to get an idea:
> 
>  http://foxtrot.mgras.net/bitmap/FGFS/KSFO_large.png
>  http://foxtrot.mgras.net/bitmap/FGFS/KSFO_closeup.png
> 
> Coastlines, lakes, airfield layouts and airspaces (at least the 2D
> part) are being read from Shapefiles. Source is available here:
> 
>  http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl?p=openradar
> 
> The project is currently in search for a new maintainer ....
> 
> Cheers,
>       Martin.
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