Le lundi 21 novembre 2005 à 12:33 +0100, MPCEE French Bureau a écrit :
> Bonjour Fred:
> 
> Je suis en France dans l'Auvergne. Si je parle très forte, tant pis, mais
> après beaucoup des heures, avec des autres, en tant que je peux dissiper des
> problèmes, je continua comme ça !

hello Martin,
First, thanks for trying to use the very difficult French language, and
thanks for living in our beautiful Auvergne.
I am not a FG developer only a FG user, fortunately regarding FlightGear
i am a Linux user  (it is a choice, after many experiences with many
operating system)
I am an old "computer man" who knew the  "big" IBM 360, and developed on
it ( it was a long time ago .....)
> Little is given to Windows' users and we have to find ways to resolve our
> issues. We did not have access to the "pre" versions, but, yes, we are left
> to resolve them ourselves. 
I are right when you worry about a missing pre version for Windows,
however,
i would like to put the finger on:
-It is very difficult to offer a generic product which works on every
platforms, and every operating systems. 
-The software companies have a  policy which is to answer to the most
populated (wider market).
-The end user is delivered with a product and a costly assistance
contract. That product  is supposed to answer to his own request but
very often he has to adapt himself to  the product.
-Regarding the Open Source and GPL,  it is less easy to develop onto
Windows than to develop onto Linux.
-The devel FG team has developed  Flightgear  which suit to several
platforms, that is (my opinion) a real performance.
> There are some list members who have given hours
> of their time to assist us. Like me, we thank them for this. In the main it
> may be a graphics card/driver problem, but then again we are in the mass
> market and developers SHOULD remember this.
 You probably heard about Microsoft Flight Simulator. That product
answer to the mass market =>
it is a game (big market) running onto Windows operating system (other
big market).
That game is not free. (we have to pay for it).
I am not sure that FlightGear would try to compete with Microsoft.
>  I am too old and can go far
> back, but there was a spirit in being able to share information. Times are
> changing and nowadays, these persons are few and far between. The spirit of
> Flight Gear is excellent, but it is becoming too big and splintered, with
> what seem many unfinished projects and no control over its ultimate
> direction. We have even had one aircraft developer recently say that he
> created an aircraft, but did not expect anyone to use it! 
I am not sure be involved by that answer, may be coming from me.
When i spend time freely to do a job , the payback is only my pleasure
to do "Beautiful".
When i am fully satisfied, i offer it to others.
That is the reversed way of any market approach, sorry.
> His response was
> to someone asking why the cockpit was not finished!!! Why was it made
> available for download?
> 
> There are big issues with this release and, so far, it seems to be Windows
> related. As for non-Windows operating systems and the types of problems we
> are reading about, these seem to be, in the main, related to how "script" or
> "codes are written" and where to find the relevant information. What we are
> seeing is more discontent and this is going to grow. With previous versions,
> we heard that this or that would be resolved in the next release or new
> script (which cannot be accessed for Windows).
Each new release is for me a surprise (following each new release since
0.9.0)
The improvement is very quick, it is close to the upper technical
resources.
These technical resources are permanently in progress (look at GPU -
Graphics Processor progress during the pasted two years); A computer you
by today , will be obsolete 12 months later on.
That is probably the cause of your feeling  of "never finished".
>  We now have the latest
> version, but the pre release was not available for Windows' users. As I said
> the mass market is Windows and if we were able to access developments as
> they happened, there would be more individuals available to comment on or
> inform of problems. As it is, it is afterwards and too late to do anything
> about it. If the problems were resolved, would Windows' users have access to
> the changes when immediately needed? Then, in answering your question, would
> I donate for development - yes, but only when I was assured that it
> benefited Windows' users. At this time it does not.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Martin
> 
Cheers

> 

-- 
Gerard


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