On 4/6/2013 10:59 AM, John Carlson wrote:
When I was studying Revelation in the 1980s. We thought this same
scripture referred to the European Union. We also thought that Jesus
had to return by 1988, because that was one generation past when the
Jews returned to Israel in 1948. It seems that god has a way of
overturning predictions.
read something recently that asserted that the prediction still held,
only that the generation was 80 years rather than 40, thus putting the
end-event somewhere around 2028 (with the rebuilding of the temple and
tribulation and so on happening before this).
it still remains to be seen how things will turn out.
Some answered questions: http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAQ/
On Apr 6, 2013 5:32 AM, "Kirk Fraser" <overcomer....@gmail.com
<mailto:overcomer....@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Most likely your personal skills at natural language are
insufficient to understand Revelation in the Bible, like mine were
until I spent lots of time learning. Now I can predict the current
Pope Francis will eventually help create the 7 nation Islamic
Caliphate with 3 extra-national military powers like Hamas in Rev. 13,
17:3. You must understand natural language well if you want to
program it well. Many grad students hack out an NLP project that
works at an uninspiring level. To go beyond the state of the art, you
must learn to understand beyond state of the art.
>
> Claims that the world has progressed beyond some past century are
true for technology but not in human behavior. People still have wars
large and small. Some of the worst human behavior can be seen in
courts during wars between family members, and some of that behavior
comes from lawyers. Human behavior can only be improved by everyone
pursuing the absolute perfection of God and his human form Jesus
Christ, the Creator. We must go beyond the state of the art churches,
to learn from the true church which Jesus practiced with His students,
before He left and they quit doing much of what He did and taught.
>
> Because his first graduates ignored His teaching of equal status
under Him instead pursuing positions over others and their money,
today we have inherited that culture instead of Jesus' life where it
is possible to be fed directly by God's miracles without need of
money. So I propose a return from today's "advanced culture" to
Jesus' absolute perfection. www.freetom.info.truechurch
>
> In view of the human spiritual awakening possible that way,
computers are only a temporary support until we get there. Watch
videos archived at www.sidroth.org <http://www.sidroth.org> some of
which are lame but others are impressive showing what is happening now
giving the idea the perfect culture of Jesus' church is possible.
>
> Love Absolute Truth,
> Kirk W. Fraser
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Steve Taylor <s...@ozemail.com.au
<mailto:s...@ozemail.com.au>> wrote:
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>> Charlie Derr wrote:
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>>> Nevertheless I'm finding some of this conversation truly
fascinating (though I'm having a little trouble figuring out
>>> what is "truth" and what isn't).
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>> I'm just waiting for Kirk to mention Atlantis or the Rosicrucians.
It feels like it could be any moment...
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>> Steve
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