I am not talking about Distro. I am not complaining  the linux kernel
its modules and socialist culture.

I am talking about Desktop. I am talking about end user not like you
geeks.

Lets switch off Linux Desktop. Lets talk about XO interface Sugar. Why
it failed?

The basic problem of Sugar is not Sugar. They are sweet. The problem
is interface (horrible than Gnome).

You know Children? We have been children. We need to have a massively
simplified user interface. All things lack on Sugar is wrong choice of
GUI (i.e GTK+) and script. They selected Python. You know how damn
slow is python especially with GTK+ binding (don't throw benchmark
here, i have with me!)..

I blame Sugar's slow and cryptic features for the outrageous decision
from Uncle Negroponte. Sugar is just annoying.

There are promising desktop players.  Take an example of KDE and
Gnome. Perhaps, They could have unite together for better windows like
interface. Even after QT got under (L)GPL, their rooted divided
mentality is broadening like anything.

There is a serious rift between two community. Will you forget windows
against FOSS? You guys are fighting each other. I see hell of issue
with same vision different approach. Distro upon Distro. Mess upon
Mess.

Why don't Gnome and KDE stop bickering right away !  Get unite and
jointly develop a cool revamp GUI library to meet the standard of
Windows or MacOSX interface. Leveraging the power to develop Sugar a
real platform agnostic application. The desktop realm is changing so
rapidly...the rest of FOSS is fighting so aggressively.

Well in windows for sure our little genius kid gonna get de-facto web
standards - MP3, Flash, Java thats gonna be real fun. So many
features .. always fun in reading. These are proprietary with stupid
IP attached with it. But no matter what clinches, the only fact is we
need to make reading more interactive and more fun.


- Sarose


On Apr 24, 5:41 pm, "Ashay Thakur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1:Zico
>
> Seriously, sarose there must be a slight problem with the distro you use,
> This is not the 90's and the LINUX desktops have come a long way.
> What they are not is Windows copy( well, some are that as well)
> So, teaching your Li'l bro, or your dad is not as taxing as you seem to
> think
> The actual issue with OLPC has nothing to do with ease of use.
> For a beginner, there really is no difference; in my opinion Linux is a much
> better starting OS than its more prevalent counterpart.
>
> The real thing is too many people share your vision; they do not believe
> children might adapt to the 'GEEKY' platforms.
> Well, it is sad if instead of convincing more people we are going back to
> doubting ourselves.
> sure the FOSS applications are not replicas of their proprietary
> counterparts, but whoever said they needed to be?
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Zico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM, sarose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > yes its bad news and a good lesson for the gnome/kde that has not come
> > > up with user friendly UI till this date.
>
> > You are very wrong, brother! Don`t you see the *blinking things* of
> > gnome/kde? And, how do you define "friendly user interface"? What more do
> > you expect from Gnome/KDE? Please point out, we will be really glad to hear
> > that.
>
> > just stop saying linux is ready for desktop.
>
> > Why should we do that??
>
> > > neither its ready for my
> > > dad nor its ready for my little brother.
>
> > I don`t know about your dad or younger brother, but Ubuntu is ready for my
> > grandfather. Now, i am teaching my grandmother to use computer ( in one
> > word, Ubuntu ).
>
> > all its ready
> > > for is server only.
>
> > Very wrong.
> > By the way, which distro do you use?
>
> > --
> > Best,
> > Z
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