Harsh, but true. Thanks for summing up :D

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Emily Gonyer <emilyyr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Tobias Mueller <mue...@cryptobitch.de>
> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 09:03:34AM -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote:
> >> And, once again, I have to ask, how much different does it have/need
> >> to be?
> > I don't think any designer would want my advice as to how to make a logo.
> > But I am very confident that minor modifications such as using the
> Ubuntu circle
> > instead of a plain filled circle would make all of us happy.
> >
> >> It is slightly different already, in Ubuntu's normal scheme for
> >> spinoffs - if you look at Xubuntu's logo its a solid circle with the
> >> XFCE mouse inside in relief
> > I claim false facts.
> > The XFCE logo seems to be this:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Xfce_logo.png
> > A full bodied, potentially running mouse in front of an X.
> > The Xubuntu logo seems to be that one:
> http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/themes/xubuntu-theme/xubuntu-wp/images/xubuntu-logo.png
> > It's a (probably the XFCE) mouse's head in a filled circle.
> > So the logos differ.
> >
> >> Kubuntu's is a solid circle with KDE's logo inside.
> > The KDE logo <
> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Guidelines/CIG/KDE_Logo> is a
> > K gear.
> > The Kubuntu logo <http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/logo.png>
> > has a split gear-wheel only. The K is missing.
> > Thus, the logos differ.
>
> Alright. So how about this. We chop the toes off of the foot, so its
> not quite the same. Will that work for you? Of course not. That'd be
> 'bad design'. This nit picking is what makes people hate GNOME. What
> makes people (good people!) throw up their arms and say screw it!
> Cause' trying to work with GNOME isn't worth it - its far more hassle
> than its worth, and far easier/better/simpler to just fork and move
> on. As Cinnamon and Elementary have done. Or avoid (whenever possible)
> acknowledging that they're using portions of GNOME as XFCE is.
>
> As Dave pointed out, back a few yrs ago, people who were using only
> portions of GNOME were happily included in the GNOME family. But now
> GNOME insists on drawing utterly arbitrary and constantly shifting
> lines in the sand as to what constitutes 'GNOME'. Its ridiculous. Its
> spiteful, and above all its counter productive.
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Tobi
>
>
>
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