At 03:01 PM 12/30/2012, leledumbo wrote:
lazarus was in beta for that many years, but this project has just got its
FIRST beta in many years

No so fast, they actually have to release something first.
On their web site it says "The first public download will be provided within late December 2012" in one place and "24 December 2012 (internal beta)" in another, actually available is still nothing. Ok, still 33h to go 'til the end of December 2012 in this part of the world, let's see if something is going to happen (or not...)

Ralf 
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