On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Michael Van Canneyt <mich...@freepascal.org > wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, silvioprog wrote: >> >> After that, we can still see about new modes. I'm not arguing about that. >>> >>> Michael. >>> >> >> Are you talking about compatibility to Delphi 5/7? >> >> There are already many new great components available on network, however >> it uses some basic new Delphi features like I said above, but >> unfortunatelly FPC doesn't compile them. >> > > I am not against improving Delphi compatibility, I have never said that. > > But for me, people should use the correct arguments: > - improved productivity is not one of them. I see no proof of this. > I do see a lot of marketing. > - The word "Modern" is very subjective. > > In short, it isn't a problem to me and I'm glad to use ObjFPC even with >> some limitations, but I would be very greatful if the ObjFPC could be >> improved using at least generics, new RTTI and custom attributes. >> > > Attributes and RTTI will come as soon as 3.0 are out of the door. >
Wow, this is a great new! =) > In the meanwhile, why don't you just use mode Delphi and enjoy the > benefits of that mode ? I'm using mode delphi in some units, however just for retro compatibility. I know it would be a hard work to be able in FPC, but I can see a bit >> resistance from >> the FPC core to accept this new features (or nonsense, as they use to say >> =D ). >> > > I didn't say features are nonsense. I said arguments are nonsense. > > [1] https://github.com/hprose/hprose-delphi >> [2] https://www.devart.com/entitydac/ >> [3] https://www.tmssoftware.com/site/aurelius.asp >> > > hprose works in lazarus if I understand the sources correctly. > It works, but skipping many features using something like {IFNDEF FPC}'many features'{ELSE}'nothing'. > From the entitydac site: > "I originally purchased TMS Aurelius (ORM). I could not get it off the > ground after three days." > > So be careful what you pick as examples ;) > At the same page: "This is "THE ORM FOR DELPHI". Easy to use and powerful. With this tool I have simplified the DB managing in my Delphi application and I can create true cross-db application using EntityDAC and UNIDAC, two great products." > Additionally: > If you had used tiOPF 10 years ago, you could have done exactly the same > as what these products (entitydac and aurelius) do, at NO cost, and without > generics. I can say this with confidence, because I already did that, and > still do today. > > But once more, it's just about arguments. Not about stopping people. > > Michael. Yes, I took a look at tiOPF some years ago, it is a nice framework, but it doesn't imply me not to meet new frameworks. =) Although, this is just my opinion, because I think that this details/features could help the FPC users to use more third party components. -- Silvio Clécio
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