Stefan, SymbolBolded is reported as missing even though the docs have no bolded
symbols. The Symbol character tag with no weight is applied.
SymbolBolded is not in the Fonts pod. I've searched for it with no luck. It's
not on the body, reference, or master pages. I've even looked at one of the MIF
files and didn't see Symbol Bolded anywhere.
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Which font (exactly) was reported as missing before you tried to get rid of it
by turning off "Remember missing font names"? And which font (exactly) is
reported as missing now?
I'm asking, because FM replaces fonts by a standard mappings (see maker.ini).
And maybe something like "Fontname1 Heavy" was replaced with "Fontname2 Heavy"
(which might be not present as well) or somethings replacement problems come up
with Bold, Italic, BoldItalic replacements.
?
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 17:11
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts
Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing fonts. I had
already tried those things, unfortunately, and they hadn't worked.
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
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Hi,
Heiko Haida wrote:
> the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes (in
> Simplified Chinese).
At least as long as it's actually a "Quotation Mark." (for a quotation).
If it's a title mark (e.g. for a book, or e.g. a chapter heading) fullwidth
double angle brackets should be used as primary quotes):
??? (U+300A left double angle bracket, U+300B right double angle bracket)
For embedding fullwidth single angle brackets, ??? (U+3008 left angle bracket,
U+3009 right angle bracket) should be used (like this: ???????)
(I hope the Chinese characters in this mail will make it through the list
software.)
I was discussing the use of quotation marks long and broad with several Chinese
TechComm experts at tcworld China Conference in Shanghai last spring and with
Chinese typography experts after the conference. Final recommendation was to
use ???in cross-references to the title of other documents or subheadings (in
the same or external document). Same also if you reference to titles of other
documentations (like mentioning "Administrator Guide" in the "User Guide") or
mentioning official papers, standard documents etc.
That is, this would be the "perfect" way. However, I was confirmed that Chinese
readers are also okay with the use of ??? in all scenarios - especially when
they know, that the text was typeset by non-Chinese people. (But I guess it
might be nice to avoid that this impression comes up.)
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Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 00:09
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
Hi Rick,
the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes.
The problem you describe should not occur with FM 2017 (in my test, everything
was ok).
Also, the quotes should be handled in way that they will be formatted with the
Chinese font (not the Latin font).
Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
Rick Quatro:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I have a structured FrameMaker 2017 document that has been translated
> to Simplified Chinese. Some of the cross-reference formats have double
> quotes in them, like
>
> See "<$paratext>" on page <$pagenum>.
>
> The text has been translated but the quotes and building blocks are still
> there. The problem is that with the Chinese there are sometimes line breaks
> after the open quote and before the close quote, depending on where the
> cross-reference falls on the line. For example, the close quote in the text
> below is on the second line by itself instead of bring the whole quoted text
> down with it.
>
> ??????????? 97 ?? " ????
>
> "
>
> The same thing happens if an open quote falls as the end of the line; it
> stays there and the rest of the quoted text moves to the next line. Is there
> a way to prevent these line breaks? Thank you very much.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-366-4017
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