Yes, I guess my hunch was right. That looks pretty much like a bold fauxing which is hard to fix. Feel free to send me the file as a zipped MIF and I will be happy to look at it and provide a fix.
Regards, Stefan Gentz Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist Connect with us: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube | Our Blog | Adobe TCS User Forum -----Original Message----- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Forrest Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 23:55 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 142, Issue 17 Stefan, SymbolBolded is reported as missing even though the docs have no bolded symbols. The Symbol character tag with no weight is applied. SymbolBolded is not in the Fonts pod. I've searched for it with no luck. It's not on the body, reference, or master pages. I've even looked at one of the MIF files and didn't see Symbol Bolded anywhere. On Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:03 PM, "framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com" <framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com> wrote: Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.com&data=02%7C01%7Cgentz%40adobe.com%7Cfd71befd78a74506f93f08d5676b4dc2%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636528632958457848&sdata=3s43LIXmIhE7G9gHfLLGGUQTKOvhhUmFk7AejPDKpKw%3D&reserved=0 You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Getting rid of missing fonts (Stefan Gentz) 2. Re: Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks (Stefan Gentz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:18:04 +0000 From: Stefan Gentz <ge...@adobe.com> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Cc: Catherine Forrest <catherine.forr...@ymail.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts Message-ID: <by2pr02mb19583e8d10b9558bcfa27e5dba...@by2pr02mb1958.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Which font (exactly) was reported as missing before you tried to get rid of it by turning off "Remember missing font names"? And which font (exactly) is reported as missing now? I'm asking, because FM replaces fonts by a standard mappings (see maker.ini). And maybe something like "Fontname1 Heavy" was replaced with "Fontname2 Heavy" (which might be not present as well) or somethings replacement problems come up with Bold, Italic, BoldItalic replacements. ? Regards, Stefan Gentz Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist ?????????? ? -----Original Message----- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Forrest Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 17:11 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing fonts. I had already tried those things, unfortunately, and they hadn't worked. _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com&data=02%7C01%7Cgentz%40adobe.com%7C82cfeb6569f24bf85a5b08d564d821ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636525801812536529&sdata=kVsToGIr9mwtHrEebvXKdft54MVF2DjJG9eLlaxDJPQ%3D&reserved=0 Archives located at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cgentz%40adobe.com%7C82cfeb6569f24bf85a5b08d564d821ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636525801812536529&sdata=wHn2wj8LmG8UaRwF25FKNMQac%2FXukRKTji%2By6pWIsX0%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.com&data=02%7C01%7Cgentz%40adobe.com%7C82cfeb6569f24bf85a5b08d564d821ec%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636525801812536529&sdata=txxcda9uCJcVU6NO8CBF%2FXZEeFbkRb94b4%2Fl%2BjZ4q8c%3D&reserved=0 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:19:09 +0000 From: Stefan Gentz <ge...@adobe.com> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks Message-ID: <by2pr02mb195894aea1896600b0487c0bba...@by2pr02mb1958.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, Heiko Haida wrote: > the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes (in > Simplified Chinese). At least as long as it's actually a "Quotation Mark." (for a quotation). If it's a title mark (e.g. for a book, or e.g. a chapter heading) fullwidth double angle brackets should be used as primary quotes): ??? (U+300A left double angle bracket, U+300B right double angle bracket) For embedding fullwidth single angle brackets, ??? (U+3008 left angle bracket, U+3009 right angle bracket) should be used (like this: ???????) (I hope the Chinese characters in this mail will make it through the list software.) I was discussing the use of quotation marks long and broad with several Chinese TechComm experts at tcworld China Conference in Shanghai last spring and with Chinese typography experts after the conference. Final recommendation was to use ???in cross-references to the title of other documents or subheadings (in the same or external document). Same also if you reference to titles of other documentations (like mentioning "Administrator Guide" in the "User Guide") or mentioning official papers, standard documents etc. That is, this would be the "perfect" way. However, I was confirmed that Chinese readers are also okay with the use of ??? in all scenarios - especially when they know, that the text was typeset by non-Chinese people. (But I guess it might be nice to avoid that this impression comes up.) ? Regards, Stefan Gentz Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist ?????????? ? -----Original Message----- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe....@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heiko Haida Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 00:09 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks Hi Rick, the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes. The problem you describe should not occur with FM 2017 (in my test, everything was ok). Also, the quotes should be handled in way that they will be formatted with the Chinese font (not the Latin font). Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin Rick Quatro: > Hi Framers, > > I have a structured FrameMaker 2017 document that has been translated > to Simplified Chinese. Some of the cross-reference formats have double > quotes in them, like > > See "<$paratext>" on page <$pagenum>. > > The text has been translated but the quotes and building blocks are still > there. The problem is that with the Chinese there are sometimes line breaks > after the open quote and before the close quote, depending on where the > cross-reference falls on the line. For example, the close quote in the text > below is on the second line by itself instead of bring the whole quoted text > down with it. > > ??????????? 97 ?? " ???? > > " > > The same thing happens if an open quote falls as the end of the line; it > stays there and the rest of the quoted text moves to the next line. Is there > a way to prevent these line breaks? 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