It seems that the benefits of Flare over Frame are:
- More customizable/better HTML output
- Better support
- Better single sourcing than unstructured Frame
- They don't charge an arm and a leg to pay for upgrades

The benefits of Frame over Flare are:
- Better PDFs
- Less of learning curve for unstructured Frame, and possibly for structured Frame

I don't believe that Adobe has abandoned Frame, but they do charge an insane amount for upgrades and the support is not so great, which is similar to abandoning their users. Having said that, since I mainly produce PDFs, I have no plans on switching to Flare any time soon.

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On 27-Jun-18 7:59 AM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
I don't think the issue in this conversation is about Adobe abandoning FM, but that the corporate model Adobe chooses to use has effectively driven a lot of us old timers out the door, into the arms of its competitors. Yes, there have been a bunch of new features and added support for functions that required external plug-in support previously, but the interface is actually quite hard for me to navigate now, especially now that so many keyboard commands have disappeared or changed.

For me, my last favourite version was 7.2 on the Mac (which I still have running by the way, on a G5 tower). Sure it lacked all the fancy mod-cons of later versions but I could run that application for months at a time (without shutting down the computer or program) without issue. Can't say the same for the current version, I'm afraid. And as I said earlier, part of the reason was being locked out of the application due to licensing problems.

Version 5.5.2 on Linux was fun while it lasted. Of course, one does miss the hominess of Frame Corp, but that was a long time ago now.

Alan

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On 27/06/18 13:42, ideasli...@ideastraining.com wrote:
I've been hearing rumors of Adobe's abandonment of Frame for years, if not
decades. The timing of these rumors is almost as regular as an atomic
clock...

Abandonment hasn't happened yet. Oddly, I find the rumors tend to peak
before Adobe announces a new version. This list, or any public list, is not a good way to make a decision about FrameMaker. Those that know can't say;
those that say usually don't know.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
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All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM are one of the reasons why my company decided to focus on another tool and migrate away from FM.  All of the technical publications staff (including me) are now using Madcap Flare and we have just completed a 2 year migration of all FM documents into Flare.   It was a bit sad to say goodbye to FM, but the
handwriting was on the wall.

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