interesting perspective pip…

sadly, sexual harassment and assault do not only result from the hierarchical 
power structures of industrial or commercial productions… 
nor are they limited to territoriality and competition…. 

sometimes, these things can happen precisely because we are working alone and 
in the margins... and in order to pursue our subjects we may place ourselves in 
dangerous or compromising situations without protection, because we might think 
that by working alone, outside of the industry, in the margins, that protection 
is not needed… not protection from superiors or crew members (because we are 
working independently and alone)… but protection from our subjects… that in 
itself creates a very complicated and difficult power dynamic… because then how 
does one finish or edit a film, when the footage itself bears the trace of an 
assault that becomes a trigger? and then how does one independently promote or 
disseminate such a film, or even attempt to work with a distributor when the 
mere discussion of the film is tangled with the effects of ptsd that breed 
fear, aggression, paranoia, and distrust of ones peers, friends, and others …. 
hypothetically speaking of course.

 just to say… that sadly… sexual assault and harassment can, and does sometimes 
happen to experimental filmmakers, in the process of making their films… 
working alone in the margins. 

adc



> On Nov 23, 2017, at 9:21 PM, Pip Chodorov <framewo...@re-voir.com> wrote:
> 
> Asking for a friend?  Hilarious subject line.
> 
> I think experiemental film's freedom comes from its marginality.
> In this business there is no money or power because these films are outside 
> the film industry and outside the art market. There is only passion, sharing, 
> and working in cooperative communities.
> 
> That is not to say that there is no competition or territoriality between 
> people or groups, we feel that maybe even stronger than in the film industry 
> or the art market. But there is certainly no sense of entitlement over others 
> due to one's position. There are no bosses, no job interviews, no big 
> opportunities, no moguls... Also the nature of these film works are 
> self-expression and thrashing out issues of difference and marginality and 
> self-identity so it is a very welcoming community in those terms.
> 
> Of course there are other kinds of negative energies that can crop up in our 
> communitiy besides sexual haassment, other, more "experimental" harassments 
> that could be interseting to discuss...
> 
> - Pip Chodorov
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 21:06 +0000 23/11/17, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:
>> Given the proliferation of items in the news about sexual harassment in the 
>> film industry, and entertainment, and politics and academe, etc. why is this 
>> listserv so quiet on these issues?  Nothing to report?
>> 
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