thus Joseph A. Dacuma spake:
I don't think that binary only drivers are well enough.
Surely better than nothing but ...
No fucking way. No support is FAR FAR better than a blob. Yes, really!
Don't forget that an open source team sometimes makes api changes
that might break a "binary only" driver. And companies sometimes
are slow in fixing.
A.K.A. Never. And when they try it usually doesn't work right. Worst of
all
*you* have no clue how they kludged a so called fix together. Vendor code
is
usually pretty darn bad and I wonder why people never revolt against that.
Or the vendor did some mistakes in his own driver.
First the paying customers are served. All the other folks
(open source ..) surely will come last.
Open source users paid for the hardware didn't they? Or because they use
an
alternative OS now they stole the hardware? This argument is retarded.
For some smaller corps supporting open source developers is
simply a burden that costs time and so money.
Docs are part of the development process. If they are not than you don't
want
that hardware.
I know this from a medium sized german company producing nice
audio recording cards.
It was impossible to get a card and documentation from them for
a FreeBSD developers. And after weeks and months of asking via
e-mail they decided finally to tell the truth that they don't
want to support open source developers anymore, it makes too much
work. They are unable to spend so much time answering open source
developers questions although they got documentation. This experience
they made with Linux developers.
I call horseshit on this one too. Vendors do not have to support shit if
they
free their docs. NOTHING because the OS developers will do it for FREE
for
them. This argument is a steaming pile of shit with peanuts in it.
It is this attitude that is killing Linux and FreeBSD. They will allow
anyone
to shit and piss in their sandbox and say "GREAT THANKS!"
You people need to get through your heads that blobs are killing your
operating
system that you pretend to care so much about. Allowing blobs is the
equivalent of eating fast food; it is convenient now but 10 years from now
your
ass wont fit through the door.
A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte
Andreas ///
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Hi All!
I agree totally with Mr. Peereboom. IMHO, BLOBS are not sustainable in the
long run. If a manufacturer decides to retire a particular model (driver
support included) while OS keeps on releasing newer versions (which
include changes in the design and/or how things are implemented) one will
be facing two scenarios: stasis or an unstable system. Both I believe is
distasteful.
definitely. but on the other hand there's 15 minutes of fame if you
support a device (using a blob) today -- as others won't support it.
I'd rather purchase hardware that will enable me to (ab)use it until it no
longer works (MBTF deadend) using either NetBSD or OpenBSD :).
true, but NetBSD allows blobs.
Joseph A. Dacuma
timo
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