On 26 Oct 2012 06:01, "Konstantin Belousov" <kostik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:01:27 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
> > >Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake are
> > >made clear?  This is a major, *major* upheaval, and having two
> > >versions of bsd.port.mk for years is simply not an option.
> >
> > There is no need/plan for two versions of bsd.port.mk, the patch I just
> > mentioned, deals with older systems by detecting that bmake was not
> > used, and using it (installing if need be).
> >
> > >Have you discussed this on ports@?
> >
> > I have not at least.
> > This was discussed at the last couple of BSDCan's and dev summits.
> >
> > The original plan discussed at BSDCan a couple of years ago, was to
> > allow bmake and the old make to cooexist for some time so that ports
> > could continue to use the old make.
> >
> > At the last BSDCan we were told that wasn't an option - hence the patch
> > to ports that was mentioned.
> >
> > FWIW the changes to 99.9% of the ports tree are trivial (:L -> :tl etc).
> > The only interesting changes are to bsd.port.mk (the diff other than the
> > above is 54 lines) they cover 2 things - dealing with old make as
> > mentioned above, and man pages.  The nested .for loops that deal
> > with MLINKS are replaced with one line - this was safer that attempting
> > to hack those .for loops to work with both makes.
>
> I am watching the serial for some time.  Could please, someone, describe
> why bmake cannot grow the compat features to be a drop-in replacement for
> FreeBSD make, instead of patching all the trees ?
>
> In particular, why cannot the ':L' and ':U' support be added ?

:U is already used by bmake for something else- I can't remember what, but
I checked the man page last night :(

Chris
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