Hello,
On 2/15/16 3:40 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
John Marino wrote:
On 2/15/2016 6:32 PM, Roger Marquis wrote:
This makes no sense. Ports are not tied to base releases.
And you think lack of developer resources is an invalid reason?
There was no mid-release issue with base as far as I know. The issue was
with ports and by extension pkgng (and related -ngs).
ports are developed independently. They do not follow release
schedules. Ports have to support all supported releases, that's the
only connection.
Yeah, I'd agree with this... except...
pkg_* tools don't exist on 10.x only pkgng... that makes it base os
thing.. even if it's downloaded in/via ports..
So sorry don't claim it's only part of the ports system, because whilst
it maybe built and administered there, the tools it replaced were
removed from the base OS at the very beginning of 10.x...
This is like milking a dead cow here. Even if you get something out of
it you're not going to drink it.
If you want to be using a 2014 OS in 2022, then a RHEL derived system is
the product for you. Enjoy it. I don't believe that there is an upgrade
path in RHEL, so you'll either have to retire hardware or nuke your
systems to upgrade.
No one forced you to use 10.x before you were ready. 9 is still
supported to this day. And as has been pointed out, pkg_ tools were in
ports should you have wanted to continue to use them, and you could have
kept them and frozen your ports tree, as has been pointed out.
Could the pkg(8) roll out have been handled better? Yes! Hey, I'm not
happy about Bush v Gore in 2000 but I'm not still crying about it.
You're frustrated, angry, bitter, whatever. I'm terribly sorry but it's
ime to move on.
Red Hat, which is now your preferred product, is a for-profit company
with over 8000 paid employees, many of whom are testing and testing and
testing. They never update anything except at the point of a gun, and
then only after extensive testing. On the plus side, it's stable. It
never really changes. FreeBSD, on the other hand, is a comparatively
small organization and an operating system that moves forward, though
sometimes it's two steps forward and one back.. Some things need to be
tested in the field to find out where and what needs to be
changed/fixed/improved. That's the way it is. Was this an epic fail?
That's a matter of opinion, though we all already know yours. The fact
is that you had choices. You made those choices with your eyes open (if
you didn't then shame on you!) and things didn't go as smoothly as you'd
have liked. As I said, it's time to move on. Your arguments are specious.
--
Jim Ohlstein
"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
difference." - Mark Twain
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