Chris wrote:
Nikolas Britton wrote:
From a business perspective we look amateurish.
I have held off thus far...
I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and "Image" conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true.
No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What?
hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong with chucky
Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as the NetBSD project took?
No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world.
I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD):
Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users of NetWare, etc, etc, etc.
How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism.
1. The "FreeBSD" logo is crap, not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), Just the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect "FreeBSD" part, really, I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example)
You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD site as to the redoing of the "logo"
I DON'T want it "redesigned" (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo just better looking, image is everything you know.
2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?)
CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing?
No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/
3. The color scheme is not "complementary" anyone who has been to art school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up about basic color theory here: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever here of Cascading Style Sheets??)
Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art.
Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips
Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue?
Yes
Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels?
I don't like pastels ether, to girly, I like bold and neutral colors.
If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House.
I watch the history channel most of the time or the courses offered by the local college on channel 20 , I really think TLC has gone down hill with all the trading spaces type shows, though page is cute. It's just that I've always had a good eye for this type of stuff.
4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie the default.
Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho...
That is true.
I have no real issues with the layout of the site and it would be nice if the installer was more user friendly but I am content with the way it is, maybe you should change the color scheme of the installer to match the website?
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FreeBSD is badly in need of a PR/Design/Marketing department.
Maybe you can start, The Queer-Eye for the BSD-Guy.
If thats what it takes to get FreeBSD out of obscurity and into the enterprise then yes I will, just look at what apple did with BSD and mozilla did with firefox, I don't want to see FreeBSD (or the other BSDs) die into obscurity as I really like them.
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