The simple fact is that the f_nodes structure is not needed at all. Before I left the group several years ago, I was planning to rewrite the kernel specifically to eliminate f_nodes and move to SFT. The reason was precisely the incompatibility between this kernel and other programs such as windoze.

The f_nodes structure is a leftover from the original family of DOS API compatible RTOS that the kernel is derived from. Those operating systems used the f_nodes structure for file system switches and as locking objects for fine grain locking necessary in an RTOS. You don't need them.

Pat


Eric Auer wrote:

Hi, I tried to check SFT compatibility of FreeDOS, quick conclusion:
sft_dcb is never accessed
sft_stclust is never accessed
sft_relclust is never accessed
sft_cuclust is never accessed
sft_dirdlust (sic!) is never accessed
sft_diridx is never accessed
sft_bshare is never accessed
sft_ifsptr is never accessed (nor initialized to 0?)

Is that correct? I think SFT-messing programs like Windoze will not be
happy in particular about all those uninitialized cluster values, the
missing DCB pointer, and missing dir entry info. The share / ifs stuff
is probably less interesting or set by SHARE / IFSdrivers directly,
without kernel interaction.

Each SFT uses some header with size info and link pointer, and tools
like FILES.COM or Windoze will just search for the last SFT and add
extra SFTs - how will FreeDOS react? I think this will create SFT slots
for which no fnodes exist.

Next point are the fnodes themselves:
f_count, f_mode, f_flags, f_diroff, f_dirstart, f_offset, f_cluster
and f_cluster_offset all seem to have exact equivalents in the SFT
slot structure. Am I misunderstanding something here or could we just
throw away half of the f_node fields by using the SFT slot fields
instead???

There would be still some remaining f_node fields, but they would be
not much more than a copy of the raw directory image data (f_dir) and
a pointer to the DPB for the file (f_dpb).

I must be misunderstanding something here - if removing f_nodes would
be so easy (in terms of: replace fields by very equivalent SFT fields),
then why did we have that big project with "near fnodes" instead of
just throwing away the fnodes altogether?


So please tell me where the big hidden caveat is lurking. Thanks for reading this maso mail ;-).

Eric

PS: If a DCB and a DPB are the same (?), the only left over f_node
purpose would be holding a copy of the raw directory entry of the file.
That could be guarded by something like storing a checksum of the
starting cluster and filename in the fnode, and re-read the directory
entry if the SFT slot has changed unexpectedly (a warning could be
shown if the SFT slot has changed unexpectedly when FreeDOS would like
to write back the directory entry to disk).

PPS: A few bits of f_flags might differ from sft_flags bits.



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