Hi,

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:44 AM <mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
>
> I found a free packet driver and I'm testing both gopherus and Dillo. Very 
> nice programs.

FreeDOS includes some others, but I forget the full list. There's
quite a lot out there in the wild (maybe too much for us few
volunteers!). If only ....

*  
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/group-net.html

That Curl is hopelessly outdated, and I haven't found a copy of newest
yet (Mik's server is always down). I did privately mirror 7.64,
though, need to vet it one of these days (too much to do):

* https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/curlexe.zip?attredirects=0

Here's Curl 7.64 and Wget (I forget what version, but it's newer than
FD package), with full sources (20 MB??):

* https://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/curlwget.zip?attredirects=0

You know, Curl officially points to Mik's server (dunno why, it's
always down)! We should really host it on iBiblio for FreeDOS, but
I've not struggled to rebuild it for us because it's probably a pain
in the neck (like most things). I almost need to assist Jim in a blog
or two to show exactly the hurdles we have to jump through just to
support such things. (No, I've not emailed them, nor joined their Curl
mailing lists. Also, news://comp.os.msdos.djgpp is usually fairly low
volume, they're too busy with other things. Sorry, it's just harder
than it sounds to rebuild stuff, even when it shouldn't be.)

* https://curl.haxx.se/download.html
"DOS  7.68.0  binary  Michael Kostylev"
* http://mik.dyndns.pro/dos-stuff/bin/

I recommend Links2 over Dillo (hmmm, even there we only have a 2.19
"package" while 2.20 is latest DJGPP binary):

* http://links.twibright.com/download/binaries/dos/

> Would be nice to be able to raise the resolution for Dillo. I think I'm 
> limited to 640x480 vga.
>
> Dillo doesn't seem to work with my rainloop server ;-(

That is Georg's port of Dillo, right?
* 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fltk-dos/files/Applications/Binary%20versions%20of%20FLTK%20applications/
* 
https://code.google.com/archive/p/nanox-microwindows-nxlib-fltk-for-dos/downloads

Not Dillo-Plus? Even though they shared some code?? Dillo-Plus is
probably too old, but maybe you could try that, too:
* http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=13346#p13346
* http://dplus-browser.sourceforge.net/

> I don't think long file names are supported out of the box, which would be 
> nice to have since many Fat32 volumes are created under Windows
> and other systems and they have long filenames. Recall that the support is 
> spotty at best historically.

DOSLFN [TSR] is probably your best bet (although there are other
alternatives). But LFNs don't work by default (except for DJGPP
stuff), so not everything supports it.

If you meant native kernel support, we all wish, but that's too much
for too few volunteers. Maybe "one day"!

> If all the filesystem tools work with Fat32, that would be a massive 
> improvement.

That's a different ball of wax and not a quick fix. Some tools work
(e.g. DOSFSCK for FAT32/LFN) but others still don't. We don't have a
lot of developers or volunteers.

> My graphics card on the EVOC is an Intel Extreme and is capable of driving my 
> screen to 1920x1080 resolution.
> This resolution isn't a dos era resolution for certain, but it would be nice 
> to be able to run at the higher resolution.

If VESA 2.0 supports it, it could be done. Try SVGAtextmode
(carefully), at least for text, and see what happens.

> I want to test Freedos as a replacement for MSDOS 6.22 in an embedded system. 
> For two reasons I want to do this:
> 1) Freedos is not encumbered by licensing restrictions like MS-DOS is.

The whole point of FD is to be "free/libre" (as much as possible), but
some people are (too) stubborn or just too busy, so we're only
partially there. I'm no engineer, so my skills are limited. Still, I
try (it's fun).  :-)

> 2) Freedos is actively supported and works better on modern hardware than 
> MS-DOS.

"Active" might be a stretch, but some people are still diligent in
fixing things. "Modern" is an even bigger stretch. FreeDOS does no
miracles, but some few things barely work. (Not trying to be
pessimistic, it's just ultra complicated. I heavily appreciate FreeDOS
for what it does. I wish I could do more, but even when I know what to
do, some things are just extremely tedious and time-consuming.
"Modern??? Just use Linux [DOSEMU2 + FreeDOS]!!")


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