In that case, you’re doing it wrong ;-)

Don’t manually make DNS records, it’s not needed unless you disable the built 
in DNS server in IPA. Also, don’t try to run IPA on a domain that’s in use for 
something else. Keeping it simple and ’standard’ will help you a ton here.
For example, if you setup your server like this, all should would 
out-of-the-box:

ipa-server-install —domain=auth.company.com —realm=AUTH.COMPANY.COM --setup-dns

(Note: I’d use ds.company.com <http://ds.company.com/> because auth suggests 
it’s just an authentication server, but IPA is a lot more than dat; then again 
ds for directory service isn’t a complete picture either, you’d probably end up 
with ipa.company.com <http://ipa.company.com/> if you wanted to do it ‘right’)

For public use, I’d suggest using kdcproxy which is designed for public 
exposure. It’s supported in IPA.

If you wanted to use separate domain names for TCP/IP communication, that is 
not connected to what you set in IPA. So if you have IPA setup, you can always 
make an extra DNS record called kerberos.company.com 
<http://kerberos.company.com/>, point it to an IP, hand then internally NAT 
that IP to any IPA server(s) you want.

John

> On 17 Jun 2019, at 13:58, Christian Reiss via FreeIPA-users 
> <freeipa-users@lists.fedorahosted.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey John,
> 
> thanks again for a detailed information. I do understand this, but maybe
> I am overthinking it. The current setup (non IPA) is:
> 
> company.com Domain name,
> Using kerberos on kerberos.company.com.
> SRV & TXT Records all point to kerberos.company.com.
> 
> All user prinicipals are u...@company.com, all kerberized
> services/keytabs have a principal of host/vm4.company....@company.com
> 
> What we are aiming for is: A User requests a TGT via
> 
> kinit j...@company.com (ignoring default realms for a bit) and it would
> receive a TGT from either IPA server issues to
> 
>  j...@company.com
> 
> Servers are in the form
> 
>  host/server.company....@company.com
> 
> Also, things that use ldap want dc=company,dc=com.
> We will not be using any Windows / AD things. Only UNIX/Linux.
> The Services are used in house as well as from around the world (public).
> 
> Thanks so much.
> -Christian.
> 
> 
> On 17/06/2019 13:44, John Keates via FreeIPA-users wrote:
>> What you are trying to do is possible but not recommended. If you make a
>> distinction between what you want your users to ’see’ and what your
>> domain technically should be you can probably resolve it.
>> For IPA, it’s important that the domain for the built in DNS server is
>> not used. That means: do not use a domain that is in use. Not for your
>> IPA domain and not for the kerberos realm.
>> 
>> So, say you have company.com <http://company.com> and that is in use and
>> you want to setup IPA. Since it’s in use, you’ll have to start on level
>> down on a subdomain.
>> That means (per your choice AFAIK) that you have to set it all to
>> auth.company.com <http://auth.company.com>, both the IPA domain and the
>> kerberos realm. The main zone, company.com <http://company.com> doesn’t
>> actually come into play here.
>> 
>> Afterwards, if you want to, you could make NS delegations to your IPA
>> server(s) from your main zone.
>> 
>> If you can’t make this work out, or if DNS is managed by multiple
>> teams/people, it might be much easier to simply register a second domain
>> just for IPA, remove all of its public zones and just use it inside IPA.
>> So if you have company.com <http://company.com> you could use something
>> like company.net <http://company.net> if that’s available. Could be
>> confusing for users, so maybe companyauth.com
>> <http://companyauth.com> or company-internal.com
>> <http://company-internal.com>.
>> 
>> The “domain” part in the server setup doesn’t mean anything regarding
>> what your users would type to access your web stuff, that can be proxied
>> and renamed as much as you like to anything else.
>> 
>> Something else: what is your goal? Is this IPA setup for internal use,
>> public use, end-users, admin-users, workstations, servers, web applications?
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 11:49, Christian Reiss via FreeIPA-users
>>> <freeipa-users@lists.fedorahosted.org
>>> <mailto:freeipa-users@lists.fedorahosted.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey John,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for a speedy reply! Sure helped a lot understanding, tho a pity
>>> that some clients simply require a "a/cname" and do not look up any srv,
>>> like pfsense. And your reverse proxy idea is neat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just one issue, either technical or lack of understanding:
>>> 
>>> So I went ahead for the domain company.com <http://company.com>
>>> (exmaple, using real IPs out
>>> there):
>>> 
>>> auth.company.com <http://auth.company.com> IN NS 10.0.0.1
>>> 
>>> and created
>>> 
>>> srv1.auth.company.com <http://srv1.auth.company.com> (10.0.0.1)
>>> srv2.auth.company.com <http://srv2.auth.company.com> (10.0.0.2)
>>> 
>>> During setup of srv1 I set:
>>> 
>>> The IPA Master Server will be configured with:
>>> Hostname:       srv1.auth.company.com <http://srv1.auth.company.com>
>>> IP address(es): 10.0.0.1
>>> Domain name:    auth.company.com <http://auth.company.com>
>>> Realm name:     COMPANY.COOM
>>> 
>>> BIND DNS server will be configured to serve IPA domain with:
>>> Forwarders:       10.0.0.1
>>> Forward policy:   first
>>> Reverse zone(s):  0.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
>>> 
>>> WARNING: Realm name does not match the domain name.
>>> You will not be able to establish trusts with Active Directory unless
>>> the realm name of the IPA server matches its domain name.
>>> 
>>> So:
>>> Server: srv1.auth.company.com <http://srv1.auth.company.com>
>>> Domain: auth.company.com <http://auth.company.com>
>>> K5    : COMPANY.COM <http://COMPANY.COM>
>>> 
>>> Replica adoption failed because auth.company.com
>>> <http://auth.company.com> is not company.com <http://company.com>.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2nd try, this time:
>>> 
>>> Server: srv1.auth.company.com <http://srv1.auth.company.com>
>>> Domain: company.com <http://company.com>
>>> K5    : COMPANY.COM <http://COMPANY.COM>
>>> 
>>> Primary failed: ERROR    DNS zone COMPANY.COM <http://COMPANY.COM>.
>>> already exists in DNS and
>>> is handled by server(s): ns1.ns-serve.net <http://ns1.ns-serve.net>.,
>>> ns2.ns-serve.net <http://ns2.ns-serve.net>.
>>> 
>>> What would be the right approach here?
>>> 
>>> Thanks again!
>>> -Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/06/2019 10:10, John Keates via FreeIPA-users wrote:
>>>> A HA-aware client would use SRV records to locate the server(s) and
>>>> then connect every returned instance until a working server is found.
>>>> And by using locations you can scope the servers you get back.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding the single URL: while there are many options, we decided to
>>>> simply register all servers in a load balancer and when you access
>>>> the URL provided by the loadbalancer you simply get redirected to any
>>>> working server.
>>>> Some people prefer no URL redirects and try to solve it using stick
>>>> tables and the likes, but to us that seems like a dirty solution so
>>>> we ditched it after a PoC phase. It works but we don’t want it ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> If you have a special use case, a separate web app that talks to IPA
>>>> can be better, that is what we did for non-tech accounts; a simple
>>>> self-service app that allows you to change your own password and
>>>> manage MFA.
>>>> For everything else (i.e. SSO, SAML etc.) we often use something else
>>>> that talks to IPA, like Keycloak, because the IPA WebUI itself is
>>>> really not going to give a user any useful functionality; it’s more
>>>> of an operator and admin thing.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Jun 2019, at 10:02, Christian Reiss via FreeIPA-users
>>>>> <freeipa-users@lists.fedorahosted.org
>>>>> <mailto:freeipa-users@lists.fedorahosted.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just recently began planning the deployment of FreeIPA and have
>>>>> successfully made several test setups.  Next step would be to integrate
>>>>> this in our new datacenter; so we are starting there from scratch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understand HA on the server side. What boogles my head is HA on the
>>>>> *client* side.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example: Our pfsenses use a LDAP lookup against a single FQDN, and
>>>>> the cert must be valid (against any provided CA). Exporting the CA from
>>>>> freeIPA and importing that in pfsense is a cake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But what do I point the clients towards? Let's say I have 4 FreeIPA
>>>>> servers:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - ipa01.auth.dc-01.company.com <http://ipa01.auth.dc-01.company.com>
>>>>> - ipa02.auth.dc-01.company.com <http://ipa02.auth.dc-01.company.com>
>>>>> - ipa03.auth.dc-01.company.com <http://ipa03.auth.dc-01.company.com>
>>>>> - ipa04.auth.dc-01.company.com <http://ipa04.auth.dc-01.company.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Realm company.com <http://company.com>, Kerberos COMPANY.COM
>>>>> <http://COMPANY.COM>. If I point the pfsense (I'll
>>>>> stick to that as an example) against ipa01.auth.dc-01.company.com
>>>>> <http://ipa01.auth.dc-01.company.com> and
>>>>> this server is offline, then no HA is given. DNS Delegation might yield
>>>>> *any* of the four servers, including the one offline, so a 25% fault
>>>>> chance in there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Second question, same area: If I want my users to have one single url
>>>>> for the FreeIPA webservice, like auth.company.com
>>>>> <http://auth.company.com> that follows the above
>>>>> solution then the self-signed and generated certs do not have this as
>>>>> altname.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So summed up:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - How can I make (ldap) clients access the current online server(s)?
>>>>> - How can I provide access to the webinterace to the current online
>>>>> server(s)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Or is this simply by the magic of dns zone delegation and pure faith
>>>>> that always an online server will be hit?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any advice!
>>>>> -Christian.
>>>>> 
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